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  • #61
    Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

    Originally posted by Kevin Brown View Post
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    Kevin, thank you for your reply but unfortunately none of it is providing an answer to my question(s). When I feel that I am, for whatever reason, not given direct answer to a direct question in effort to get subtstantiation behind categorical statement even after repeated attempt then I believe I will for whatever reason not get one period no matter how many times I try, so it is time for me to leave it at this and walk away without it.

    P.S. I know Meguiar's has great customer service. However, I was not asking that you sell me on customer service, I was asking that you sell me on feedback circuitry because _that_ is what you have been excited about and making statements on.

    Never mind that IMHO "buy it and return it if you don't like it" is not considered a good "sales" method, convincing of "customer" of why he should proceed is done upfront.

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    • #62
      Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

      Lets please keep this thread friendly and positive.

      Mike Pennington
      Director of Global Training, Events and Consumer Relations
      Meguiar's, Inc.
      800-854-8073
      mpennington@meguiars.com

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      • #63
        Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

        Originally posted by Mike Pennington View Post
        Lets please keep this thread friendly and positive.

        Will do.
        Kevin Brown
        NXTti Instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team, Meguiar's Distributor/Retailer

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        • #64
          Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

          Back on track:



          I have just received correspondence from HQ via homing pigeon:

          O K 2 P R C D W T H L M T D L G B K S H R N G H Q

          This is great news.

          Notes from the logbook:

          • Am I seeing what I think I am?
          Wait. I have been trained to confirm data... Will check in soon.
          Kevin Brown
          NXTti Instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team, Meguiar's Distributor/Retailer

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          • #65
            Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

            Originally posted by Kevin Brown View Post

            O K 2 P R C D W T H L M T D L G B K S H R N G H Q
            LOLZ That's awesome Kevin!!

            Just checked with my top secret decoder ring......... no Ovaltine here Ralphie!!!
            Michael Stoops
            Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

            Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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            • #66
              Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

              Was able to get shots of the logbook pages. This is the one from 12-02-2009:

              Kevin Brown
              NXTti Instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team, Meguiar's Distributor/Retailer

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              • #67
                Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                This one was from yesterday:

                Kevin Brown
                NXTti Instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team, Meguiar's Distributor/Retailer

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                • #68
                  Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                  OK kevin
                  I don't have a decoder ring and I tried holding the laptop upside down in front of the mirror, but my bi-focals still couldn't read the fine print. Paul S
                  Live like you're not afraid to die.Don't be scared, just enjoy your ride. Chris Ledoux RIP

                  PAUL SPARKS / Distinctive Auto Detailing
                  317-513-4678

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                  • #69
                    Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                    Originally posted by hotrod66paul View Post
                    OK kevin
                    I don't have a decoder ring and I tried holding the laptop upside down in front of the mirror, but my bi-focals still couldn't read the fine print. Paul S
                    Yes, Paul, the decoder rings are hard to come by. Perhaps this will help a bit:


                    what you think this is about may not actually be. it may very well be though so stay tuned because it will be very neat and exciting regardless the outcome

                    this may seem to be a tough gig to follow but hey, it has been planned for years and years so tag along and be in the know, in the loop, be in the in group be envied all



                    Be forewarned..... this message may self destruct in 2 posts.

                    Or 20.

                    Coulda been a 5 though, the stupid battery in the stupid decoder was dying so the output was flickering.

                    And upside down.






                    Funny how that happens with these top secret sorta things.
                    Michael Stoops
                    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                      Thanks Mike. Thats what happens when I quit school in the 10th grade. Paul S
                      Live like you're not afraid to die.Don't be scared, just enjoy your ride. Chris Ledoux RIP

                      PAUL SPARKS / Distinctive Auto Detailing
                      317-513-4678

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                      • #71
                        Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                        Originally posted by ZoranC View Post
                        Kevin, thank you for your reply but unfortunately none of it is providing an answer to my question(s). When I feel that I am, for whatever reason, not given direct answer to a direct question in effort to get subtstantiation behind categorical statement even after repeated attempt then I believe I will for whatever reason not get one period no matter how many times I try, so it is time for me to leave it at this and walk away without it.

                        P.S. I know Meguiar's has great customer service. However, I was not asking that you sell me on customer service, I was asking that you sell me on feedback circuitry because _that_ is what you have been excited about and making statements on.

                        Never mind that IMHO "buy it and return it if you don't like it" is not considered a good "sales" method, convincing of "customer" of why he should proceed is done upfront.

                        Well it seemed to work when you posted this..

                        Originally posted by ZoranC
                        I got new Griot's month ago or so to try knowing they offer lifetime satisfaction guarantee
                        Let's make all of the cars shiny!

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                        • #72
                          Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                          Originally posted by TH0001 View Post
                          Well it seemed to work when you posted this..
                          Originally posted by ZoranC
                          I got new Griot's month ago or so to try knowing they offer lifetime satisfaction guarantee
                          Please notice "subtle" yet huge differences that somehow you missed:

                          1. I did not purchase Griot's to try and return if I don't like it. I purchased it to try it _because_ it has lifetime satisfaction guarantee (if you dig for my posts little bit further back in time you will notice my preference for tools with lifetime warranties is well documented, starting with posts on MOL). In other words, Griot's _did_ convince me upfront. You know quite well that is one of their marketing points and that it is proven to work as advertised.

                          2. If I am purchasing product to satisfy my curiosity I don't return it later to reseller/manufacturer as I feel that would lack integrity, one shouldn't be abusing resellers/manufacturers causing them monetary loss to play around. When I decide I don't want some tool for reason that is not manufacturer's fault (malfunctioning would be one of situations where I would just return it) I don't return it, I sell it, at my loss.

                          3. Even if we ignore # 1 and # 2 of why this is not same still Meguiar's officially does _not_ offer _satisfaction_ guarantee. They officially offer _warranty_. In other words, tool breaks within warranty they will take care of it but if tool does _not_ meet what has been advertised to one's expectation person is SOL. Therefore I _do_ need upfront convincing on why I should risk money. And person that was suggesting that is not an official Meguiar's employee so Meguiar's would not have any obligations toward me. "Kevin Brown told me you would take care of it" does not oblige Meguiar's to anything.

                          In other words: Both of my statements are not in conflict with each other even though you are trying to imply that they are, and my record for consistency remains, just like my statements of what can / can not be achieved with DA remained consistent over the time while same can not be said about statements some very high visibility detailers were making on same subject before they heard about "KB" method and after it.

                          In any case, now that you pushed this thread up and reminded me of it, does anyone know whatever happened to original topic of this thread? I hope interest did not go away now that Xmas shopping season is over. At least I am still interested to hear what was intended message supposed to be.

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                          • #73
                            Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                            Any new reports from the field on this, Kevin?

                            Rumors abound of strange new methods; molecular inversion, dilithium crystal powered buffers that do indeed provide more power, etc. Is all quite on the testing front?
                            Michael Stoops
                            Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                            Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                              This thread makes no sense to me. What is it suppose to be about and when, if ever, is there going to be an update to it? This is getting ridiculous.

                              Colin
                              A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Area 805 top secret testing begins!

                                Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                                .....dilithium crystal powered buffers.....
                                Matter and Anti Matter are no joke, they are to be respected with the power they can provide!
                                Philippians 2:14 - Do all things without grumbling or questioning,

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