Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

[roushstage2]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Very cool! Thanks for writing that up!

[CharlesW]

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Care to share the instructions? I repaint plastic/vinyl every now and then and always like more tips and tricks.

If I can find them, I would be glad to.
Keep in mind that this was done three years ago and I think I received the instructions in an e-mail. Chances are pretty good the e-mail has long since been deleted.
I did find the invoice for the products I used.
SEM39362 SEM Soap
SEM38353 SEM Plastic Prep
SEM39853 SEM Flexible Bonding Clear
SEM39273 SEM Bumper Coater (GM Charcoal Metallic)

Steve Lowman was the individual that helped me.

Steve Lowman
Technical Department
SEM Products, Inc.
1-800-831-1122

His e-mail is slowman@semproducts.com

Their website is
SEM

While I didn't find the specific information they sent me, I did find the PDF that has instructions for many types of SEM coatings.
http://semproducts.com/images/Users/...substrates.pdf
Chances are that what they sent me was a cut and paste of one of them.
The first one titled Refinishing Flexible and Rigid Plastic seems very familiar.

[roushstage2]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Care to share the instructions? I repaint plastic/vinyl every now and then and always like more tips and tricks.

[CharlesW]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Congratulations!
It turned out great.

Just as a possible help to anyone facing a similar problem, SEM is great to work with.
I repainted some GM plastic body cladding with their products and after I contacted them telling them what I was intending to do, they e-mailed me step by step instructions.
They told me:
What to soap clean the panels with.
What Scotch-Brite pad to use with the soap.
What to use for the prep product. (Primer)
What to use for the adhesion promoter.
The product to use for the finish coat.
They explained what the steps accomplished, the importance of timing, and the importance of following the procedure exactly.
Great products, great people to work with, great results.
The refinish job is at least three years old now and still looks great.

[scowley1993@hotmail.com]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Hey, Where did you get that dash cover? i have a 2001 dodge ram 1500 and my dash hasnt cracked yet but i want to put a cover on so that it hopefully wont. Thanks!
btw: it looks realy good!

[roushstage2]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Huh, turned out great! Nice job!

[Nappers]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Nappers, here's a link to Krylon plastic paint and their color chart. Anything close? http://www.krylon.com/products/fusion_for_plastic/

Kinda.....Seen those paints at Walmart.

[10degreesbtdc]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

That turned out great!

I wish I could find paint for our Yukon dash, it's oak or something......a couple of paint chips is driving me crazy!

Good show

Looks great!

Thanks Mike and Nappers! It did turn out very nice. Surprised myself on that one.

Nappers, here's a link to Krylon plastic paint and their color chart. Anything close? http://www.krylon.com/products/fusion_for_plastic/

[Nappers]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

That turned out great!

I wish I could find paint for our Yukon dash, it's oak or something......a couple of paint chips is driving me crazy!

Good show

[Mike Phillips]

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Looks great!

[10degreesbtdc]

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Here's the end result. Used Dupli-color adhesion promotor and bumper paint. Also installed a gauge bezel cap. So much of the original dash was missing brackets had to be fabbed and material added to the dash cap to stabilize it at the windshield. More pieces broke and fell out than he had when I took these photos. Stuff was like peanut brittle.

Not bad for a first time deal!

Before


After

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Haven't used the bumper coating but years ago I used the Dupli-Color Vinyl paint and changed the brown interior of a 1974 Triumph Spitfire to black and was really impressed by how well it worked and how well it held up, even on the seats.

SEM makes quality products, if you can take the component to the PBE store, it would help the Paint Mixer to better understand what you're trying to do and if possible, make some recommendations. You could also contact SEM yourself and check with them, same for Dupli-Color, chances are they both have Tech Lines.

[10degreesbtdc]

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The SEM is a flexible coating because it can be used on leather too. I'm not sure what DupliColor product you are talking about as they have either a bumper paint or vinyl paint, not a 2-in-1?

I used the SEM to paint an ABS Autometer guage pod. Went on smooth and matched perfectly. DupliColor vinyl paint, IMO, don't seem to match as well but work nonetheless.

Sorry about that! It's Bumper Coating (Dupli-color). This is a perfect match when sprayed on a broken piece of the original dash. Don't know abou texture when applied on something with a shallower pattern like the dash cap. I've tried to find a piece of ABS to try this on to see if it will warp it and if it will stick to it, but no luck. Seems everything's made of vinyl, poly these days. I didn't think of the gauge pod, though when I was at Pep Boys yesterday.

This stuff sprays kind of like undercoating (only thinner) instead of a fine mist like paint which is a plus for a dash, I think? Shouldn't be too glossy.

Summit Racing: FB109 Paint, Flexible Bumper Coating, Polyurethane, Satin, Dark Charcoal, 11 oz., Aerosol

"The tough Dupli-Color protective coating offers uniform, solid color with superior adhesion to thermoplastic rubber and polyurethane bumpers. Dupli-Color bumper coating can revitalize plastic."

[roushstage2]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

The SEM is a flexible coating because it can be used on leather too. I'm not sure what DupliColor product you are talking about as they have either a bumper paint or vinyl paint, not a 2-in-1?

I used the SEM to paint an ABS Autometer guage pod. Went on smooth and matched perfectly. DupliColor vinyl paint, IMO, don't seem to match as well but work nonetheless.

[10degreesbtdc]

Re: Anyone know if I can paint ABS dash cover with bumper/trim paint?

Thanks for taking the time to check your can and send me the info and link roushstage2 and nappers for the Eastwood tip and Mike Phillips for yours as well. I've already called local PBE/parts houses, FinishMaster and others and they didn't know about ABS specifically stating they only carry vinyl, rubber paint. Might have to take a drive there as the person answering the phone isn't always the one with the answers, it seems. About the only store we haven't checked is NAPA, so tomorrow...

The SEM product says it's for vinyl and that it's for flexible applications as a restorer? Guess it's similar to Duplicolor bumper/vinyl paint that I have? Eastwood also says vinyl AND plastic and that it's a dye, so Dupli-color bumper/trim/vinyl paint should work as well, I guess.

This ABS plastic piece seems very brittle and definitely needs adhesion promoter whatever coating is used. I'm trying to find some SEM in graphite gray locally, but it doesn't look good. I'm recommending to buy that or the Eastwood, but I think he's too much of a hurry to wait for it.

I'll post the results FYI.