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  • My first unhappy customer...

    Every business owner has an unhappy customer. I've been in business for a while now, and I've never had one. So I knew it was coming eventually

    A while back I was contacted by a woman who wanted us to detail her van that she just purchased. The van is a 1993 Ford 15 passenger van. She was converting it into a cargo van to use with her business. The van was seriously mistreated, as 90% of most vans are. All parties agreeded that perfection was not the goal. Only to give her a van that she could be proud to drive with her new business. Here is a before picture...






    She was very happy with our conversations and made the appointment to bring her van to me. She lived about 3 hours away, so scheduling an appointment was nessecary.

    She dropped the van off, and me and the guys went to work. A few hours later, the job was completed. The van looked great in my eyes. We weren't going for perfection here. Just getting her a good looking van for her business.

    It was completely dark when we finished, so after pictures didn't happen. But I did get a couple during the work process.

    Here's a close up of a test spot(smae spot as above)


    And here's the only large shot of the finished product.



    So why was she unhappy? Well, I'm glad you asked
    After she made the 3 hour drive home, and got a chance to really go over the van in the daylight the next day, she called me VERY UNHAPPY. She claimed that we were the worst detailers that she had ever used, and really got on to me(kind of like your grandmother or mother would). I asked her to explain to me why she was unhappy with the work we provided. She proceeded to tell me that she was unhappy because we did not remove the cargo windows in her van to buff and polish the channel BEHIND the glass(We buffed every inch that was visable, and the part she was talking about was impossible to get to, even by hand). She said that she could see a noticable difference between the paint on the side of the van, and the paint in the channel behind the glass. She was also unhappy because she could not detect any wax in her doorjams. And her most serious complaint was that the WHEEL WELLS WERE NOT WAXED! Now, I'm all for making a customer happy, no matter what. Even if I have to loose money, I will make the customer happy in the end. This has been my practice since I started, and my customers know that I will take care of them no matter what.
    But, this lady, I felt, was being unreasonable with her requests. I tried to explain to her that what she was complaining about was not a normal practice for a detailer, especially taking out glass(can you imagine the liability of she got into an accident and that glass popped out and killed someone?).

    Eventially, I refunded the womans money. Not because I thought we did anything wrong. But mainly because I didn't want bad press out there about us, no matter what. After paying my guys, and loosing the time involved with this job, I lost quite a bit of money. But in the end, she was satisfied, and I hope, not bashing our business name.

    Moral of the story? Make sure you get a full explaination of your customers needs BEFORE you start or even agree to the job. I learned my lesson the hard way. Now it''s a running joke between the guys, they'll throw out some comment about me not waxing this car's wheel wells or something like that.
    2008 Meguiar's Batmobile Team
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    Re: My first unhappy customer...

    IMO, this person was totally unreasonable. I would speculate that her entire gripe was a ply to get something for nothing. I wouldn't have returned her money since I think that she is likely to bad mouth you anyway.....again, JMHO.

    I get those in my business as well....ya win some (most, hopefully) ya lose some. Just don't let the maniacs get you down. (looks nice to me BTW)

    Mort (who hates people like that)

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    • #3
      Re: My first unhappy customer...

      You don't pull out the glass to detail the inner workings of it? HAHA...that's just plain ridiculous!!! Well we all know that all your work speaks very, very well for its self, this is just ridiculous.

      I'm glad you guys figured things out and that she was satisfied in the end!! Just keep on doing your thing.

      Ryan
      Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway.

      This is your life. Choose to live it to the fullest.

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      • #4
        Re: My first unhappy customer...

        Mort, I totally agree with you. I could have turned my back on her, and not lost any sleep over the deal. I feel that we gave her, her money's worth, and her van looked GREAT. But in the end, I didn't want any bad press, and if she did tell people bad things about her experience, if someone asked her what we did about it, she could tell them that we refunded her money. So there was a solution, and I didn't turn my back on her and her complaints.

        Nick
        2008 Meguiar's Batmobile Team
        2008 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team
        2009 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team
        2010 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team

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        • #5
          Re: My first unhappy customer...

          Nick, that van looks impeccable and it obviously took a lot of work and talent.

          Bad customers do come along, but I've never heard of pulling the glass and waxing the wheel wells.

          I had a customer who wouldn't pay because we did not touch up the rock chips when he didn't provide the paint or request the work. This was a $120 7 hour detail (extensive swirl removal) and I didn't get a dime.

          Although it is difficult financially to take the hit, your reputation still remains intact.

          Just for fun, I would ask her where she gets her vehicles detailed.
          Chris
          Dasher Detailing Services

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          • #6
            Re: My first unhappy customer...

            That's just plain crazy.

            Do you know what her business is? Just wondering.
            Scott

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            • #7
              Re: My first unhappy customer...

              Originally posted by PorscheGuy997 View Post
              Although it is difficult financially to take the hit, your reputation still remains intact.
              This statement is exactly why I gave her a refund.
              Being a Monday morning quarterback, I should of seen that she was difficult to please. But I wanted her business, and I made a decision. A decision that in the end hurt me finacially, but we all learn from our mistakes.
              2008 Meguiar's Batmobile Team
              2008 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team
              2009 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team
              2010 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team

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              • #8
                Re: My first unhappy customer...

                Originally posted by BlueZero View Post
                That's just plain crazy.

                Do you know what her business is? Just wondering.
                Interior designing
                2008 Meguiar's Batmobile Team
                2008 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team
                2009 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team
                2010 Meguiar's/Ford SEMA Team

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                • #9
                  Re: My first unhappy customer...

                  Business is great till you have to deal with the general public...

                  Mike always says know which jobs to turn down as well, though I guess she seemed pretty normal at first.
                  2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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                  • #10
                    Re: My first unhappy customer...

                    Originally posted by n737nc View Post
                    This statement is exactly why I gave her a refund.
                    Being a Monday morning quarterback, I should of seen that she was difficult to please. But I wanted her business, and I made a decision. A decision that in the end hurt me finacially, but we all learn from our mistakes.

                    There are ALL kinds out there. We had a guy come to our house to fix a sewing machine and he indicated that he had to take it back to his shop to get it fixed properly. He dropped it off a week later, while we were on vacation and had totally wrecked it. When I called him to ask how he cracked the casing, he said that I must have done it !?!?...long stort short, I had to take him to small claims court to get the $700 dollars it cost me to get it fixed. People are sometimes......NUTS !!!!...nice recovery on your end to at least "make her happy"....not sure how these kinds of people sleep at night...
                    Bill Poirier
                    West Seneca, NY 14224

                    "until you can afford a great car, always strive for a great looking car"

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                    • #11
                      Re: My first unhappy customer...

                      She sounds like the type of person that would go to a restarunt and order a steak. Shewould eat the whole thing. Then she would complain to the server that it was the worste steak she had ever had util she gets it for free. Then as she was walking out she would say that it was the best steak she had ever had!

                      I've seen someone do this and I hate people like that!!!



                      Sorry you had to deal with a customer lke that.
                      Rasky's Auto Detailing

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                      • #12
                        Re: My first unhappy customer...

                        there's just no pleasing some people. those complaints are completely ridiculous, why the hell would you wax door jams and wheel wells? especially for a delivery van! absolutely mental. from the pics you guys did an excellent job, shes obviously an idiot, i wouldnt worry about it.

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                        • #13
                          Re: My first unhappy customer...

                          Well, she was obviously trying to get something for nothing. As soon as you said "unhappy customer" add the fact that she drove 3 hours, it was predisposed she would be unhappy with your work. She probably did the same thing with every detailer in the 3 hour area between the locations.


                          Look at the bright side. As you said, you kept your reputation, and you are not losing sleep over it.

                          Your work is always top notch. Keep up the good work. Sorry this happened to you.
                          quality creates its own demand

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                          • #14
                            Re: My first unhappy customer...

                            Originally posted by n737nc View Post
                            Interior designing
                            (I couldn't find the making my skin crawl smile)

                            I do architecture for a living and I have worked with some bad interior designers in the past, and not to rule them all out I have worked with great ones as well. I could go on with some good stories. I was just wondering how detail driven her business was, since she was expecting so much from you.
                            Scott

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                            • #15
                              Re: My first unhappy customer...

                              Like you said, it was only a matter of time, so you seem well aware that there are lots of people out there that unreasonable & often unwilling to take any responsibilty for their actions or purchases.

                              You just have to deal with it, & you certainly did. Many businesses have to charge every customer an extra buck or two, to make up for the losses caused by the occasional retards.

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