who was the guy who

[PhantomR/T]

has a few shops in another country? Just had a grand opening recently? Glass walls everywhere... huge giant detailing center?
LIke the coolest center in the world? I think his nme was short (3 letters or so)

[Superior Shine]

Click this - - - > WAC


or this - - - > WAC WEB SITE

They are the detailer I want to be when I grow up!!!!!!!

[sneek]

lol same!

[PhantomR/T]

Originally posted by Superior Shine
Click this - - - > WAC


or this - - - > WAC WEB SITE

They are the detailer I want to be when I grow up!!!!!!!

awesome. thank you.

[showtime]

My area couldn't even support a place like that. That's got to be the best detail shop in the world.

[Mike Phillips]

I would like to visit Pairoj Ateerat's detailing center myself, but more than that I would like to get a feel for their customer market?

From what I've seen here in the U.S., it's hard to command top dollar for truly professional paint polishing work. Detailing is kind of an overall term for wheels, tires, interior and exterior work in general, but for the really cool cars like you see at WAC and other places, the real emphasis is making the exterior paint show quality as when people look at a car, while they see the car as a whole, it's the quality of the paint work that either makes or breaks the end results.

Most brick & mortar detail shops use cheap products and cheap labor to increase profits after paying for all the overhead, this is why many, (not all), but many real craftsman are mobile so that they can offer high quality paint polishing services while still being able to make a profit worthy of their time, at least here in the U.S.

Polishing paint, i.e. removing defects and creating a show car finish is hard work, it require knowledge, skill, experience, the right products, pads and tools and the human elements of care and passion, plus... time...

Quality cannot be rushed.

I find most the people I've worked for in my life don't understanding all of the above and for this reason it's hard to get big bucks for quality detail work especially when lesser quality work is available around every street corner for much, much less money.

Since both the general population and even the folks that own the really cool, high-end or special interest cars also don't know what's involved in creating a show car finish on their baby, it's hard to get top dollar for one's work without first educating the customer. Of course this also takes time and willing ear.

So back to the starting point, I'm curious as to what the customer market is like in Thailand? All things being equal, are the owners of special interest cars in Thailand more willing to spend more money for high quality work? Or is it relative to our market?

[Pete-FWA]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips

From what I've seen here in the U.S., it's hard to command top dollar for truly professional paint polishing work....

...Most brick & mortar detail shops use cheap products and cheap labor to increase profits after paying for all the overhead, this is why many, (not all), but many real craftsman are mobile so that they can offer high quality paint polishing services while still being able to make a profit worthy of their time, at least here in the U.S.

Definitely true. When I went out on my own as a young guy, I expected that people would beat a path to the door since our quality was so far beyond anything in the area. Yeah, they beat a path to the door, then wanted to pay about $85/car for show level work.

They'd try to beat us up with lines such as: "I can go down the street and get it for $80....your competitor promises same day service....wait, there's still a scratch mark on my fender....what do you mean the stains won't come out of the carpet? The other guy got them out before (by using some nasty spray paint or dye on them, yes)."

We began to cut service so we could cut price. I was enamored with the idea of making money so I could EAT and have ROOF OVER MY HEAD, so we had to compromise. Sure, we had the show car work available, but most wanted either the cut-rate or the high-average jobs for well under $200. We did a lot of dealer work and even did high volume for auto auctions. That'll open ones eyes to just how bad a vehicle can be. Given time and resources, though, I'd rather do the top notch work.