Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

[davidc11291]

After 20 hours of using a rotary on my car, and getting horrible, ugly results, I've come to the realization that no matter how much I read online, no matter how much time I spend on the machine, I'm just not gonna be able to learn how to use this machine without someone teaching me, hands on, so I want to find someone who knows how to do heavy correction with a rotary and 105, then finish out with 205 to a mirror finish, and I want to pay them to spend an hour or 2 teaching me how to do it on my car, which is black.

[Tuck91]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

Have you tried using a PC?

[greg0303]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

It may not be you - it may be the paint.
Some paint systems are not easily workable by rotary buffers (especially with aggressive liquids/ pads).

Nick (Tuck91) gave you a good advice to approach it with a D/A polisher instead.
Many detailers still prefer to do final polishing with dual action machines to ensure swirl/ hologram free finish.

How about DA Microfiber Correction System ?

[davidc11291]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

Have you tried using a PC?

I'm actually going to order a DA here in the next few days, so that I can do my compounding with the rotary and then use the DA for my 205. However, I have to be able to do the heavy correction that only a rotary can accomplish. Here's why- I've started buying beat up cars, fixing them up, and selling them (I hope to open a car lot within a year). The cars I'm dealing with for now are usually around 15 years old, heavily abused repos (like from a title loan company). They're nasty, filthy, and abused. I'm talking about cars that have probably been washed about once a month, if that. So while a DA will make them look a lot better than they do when I first get them, they've always got major problems that only a rotary can fix.

[davidc11291]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

It may not be you - it may be the paint.
Some paint systems are not easily workable by rotary buffers (especially with aggressive liquids/ pads).

Nick (Tuck91) gave you a good advice to approach it with a D/A polisher instead.
Many detailers still prefer to do final polishing with dual action machines to ensure swirl/ hologram free finish.

How about DA Microfiber Correction System ?

I haven't researched the DA Microfiber Correction System, or DA's at all, honestly. I just knew that I'm dealing with the worst of the worst when it comes to paint defects, so I jumped right into a rotary. Fortunately, it really doesn't matter if I burn through the clear here and there. These are perfect cars to learn on, because NOTHING I do will make them look any worse than they do when I start. I'm talking about cars that I'm paying 800 or 900 bucks for.

Do you mean that on some paints, a DA will actually remove more defects than a rotary? Or do you mean that I should use the 105 with the rotary, then the 205 with the DA to get that perfect, hologram free finish?

[greg0303]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

Do you mean that on some paints, a DA will actually remove more defects than a rotary? Or do you mean that I should use the 105 with the rotary, then the 205 with the DA to get that perfect, hologram free finish?

On some paint systems rotary buffers leave really severe side effects behind: heavy swirls, deep holograms, and they require two more steps to bring everything back: swirl removal and gloss restoration. In those cases switching to a dual action polisher may need longer time for below surface defect removal but it's gonna produce paint surface in much better shape or even LSP ready.

Finishing with a D/A polisher, after original rotary buffer cut, is a very popular approach. There will be no swirls nor holograms for sure. M205 is certainly capable to deliver defect free finish.

DA Microfiber Correction System is designed to work with D/A polishers and it increases correction ability by using microfiber cutting and finishing discs with special liquids: Correction Compound and Finishing Wax. It's a tool which closes a gap between dual action and rotary polishers, just like D/A machines with forced rotation.

[davidc11291]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

I'll definitely look into the DA Microfiber Correction System. I also like your suggestion of rotary for compounding and then DA for polishing.

I still want to find a local detailer that I can pay to watch me for an hour or two and correct any glaring mistakes in my technique.

I'm wanting to pay $50 per hour, and I'll come to you.

[DrdetailNashville]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

If you want to come to Nashville, I'd be happy to help you out. I know that's not a short drive, and I'm not likely to tell you anything you can't read somewhere here on the forums. I won't even charge you anything if you help me out on a couple of my own jobs

I will offer this suggestion, nearly always when I am getting poor results using a rotary it is because of one of two things. The machine and compound/polish are just too aggressive, or I am rushing and trying to buff too large an area and not working the product long enough. Try reducing your work area and make sure your doing enough passes for the product to do its job.

[davidc11291]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

Thanks for the offer, but Nashville is too far. It's definitely a problem with my technique. I've tried everything from 1000 rpm, just gliding over the surface, to 2000 rpm, bearing down on it, and every combination in between. Being totally new to machine buffing, I would expect these kind of poor results, though. I feel like I'm just stumbling around blindly with no idea of what corrections I need to make to my technique.

[Shawn T.]

Re: Need a detailer in Memphis, TN

I would look into the Microfiber System.

It will eliminate major defects, polish and wax/seal the car in 2 steps. It's really an amazing system.