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  • The power of White Wax

    There has been a bit of discussion recently regarding the effectiveness of White Wax so we wanted to share a recent project with you that demonstrates just how effective this product is when used as an all-in-one.

    What you see below is a couple close up frames of a single stage white Dodge Sprinter van. This thing is pretty huge, and the chalkiness of the SS white paint was so bad that you could run your hand over it and come away with a white powder all over your fingers. After washing and decontaminating the surface, we did three test spots on the hood, each with the idea that this was going to be a quick one step process. We used M20 and M66 first (opting out of even trying D151 since we were forced to work in full sun and D151 does not like those conditions). Why M20 and M66? They both worked very well on the WWII B25 bomber, Witchcraft, that we've done twice in the past - that aircraft had badly oxidized single stage paint and we were forced to work in direct sun. So, logical choices.

    But why put a consumer product, White Wax, up against these two? Simple: SMAT abrasives, and a fairly healthy load of them, are part of the formulation. Well, in our side by side by side test spots, White Wax was the clear winner, and so we proceeded to do the entire vehicle with it.

    A couple other caveats here: the buffer used was a Rupes LHR21 Bigfoot, not really for any additional cutting power it may offer beyond the G110v2, but because of its substantially larger footprint and the huge, flat panels that this Sprinter presented. We also stayed away from microfiber pads due to the heavy chalky nature of this paint, choosing instead to stay with foam polishing pads. We have very high confidence, however, that if you're working on any other paint than the rather unusual situation we had to deal with here, White Wax on a microfiber pad with the G110v2 would indeed produce outstanding results.

    We won't bore you with a bunch of similar looking pictures, but instead selected just a few to show off the true ability of White Wax. Below you can see a nice scuff mark in the paint, but also a general lack of gloss and clarity in the reflections. But look at the "after" shot below it: not only is the scuff gone (admittedly it took two passes to fully remove it) but look at the change in reflection and clarity! Lighting is identical for both images - they were take maybe 5 minutes apart in full sunshine.



    Here is a bit of a surprise, as we zoom in on the badge. All the gunk around the edges was taken care of with some all purpose cleaner and a brush, but the surface of the badge itself was simply passed over with the buffer, W8207 yellow foam polishing pad, and White Wax. And look at the difference!


    White Wax, a W8207 foam pad that has seen better days. It's all that paint residue that we wanted to avoid with microfiber pads as the microfiber would have wanted to hold on to so much of it and loaded up, very likely to the detriment of our process.



    This video clip shows the sort of transition we experienced every time we worked an area and wiped off the product residue. There was little to no reflection in the paint when we started, but after buffing a section we always got a kick out of watching a reflection appear as we wiped off the residue. Seriously, it just never got old!! Here we start filming on a section that has been buffed, we move to an adjacent area that has not been buffed and so is just as dull and flat as can be, and then we move back to the corrected section. Notice the reflections, even the palm trees in the background, as we go back to the corrected area. This with just a single pass of White Wax.





    Now, it must be stressed that this application of White Wax was not what you typically think of when applying wax. That typical wax application process, when done with a DA buffer, if most commonly accepted as being:

    • speed setting 3 on the DA buffer
    • a foam finishing pad
    • light downward pressure
    • very minimal product usage in order to spread it as thin as possible
    • fairly quick arm movements across the paint
    • each area covered in both a quick side to side and a quick up and down motion
    • larger areas covered at a time - perhaps as large as the entire hood of the car, or even half of one side, before adding more product
    • entire vehicle covered with wax, allowed to haze, then wiped off


    Again, the process outlined immediately above is typical for wax application via DA.

    But our process here was not typical for applying a wax. Oh no. Here, we treated White Wax almost as if it were a compound:

    • speed setting 5 on the DA buffer
    • a foam polishing pad
    • moderate to slightly heavy downward pressure
    • 3 large dollops of product for each 3' x 3' section covered (yes, we went a little bit larger than usual for heavy defect removal with a compound - but we were not chasing a show car shine here; it is, after all, a work truck!)
    • slow arm movements over the paint
    • each area covered in slow and repeated (3 or 4 times) side to side, then up and down motions
    • smaller areas covered with each section pass (as much as 3' x 3' as noted above)
    • product residue wiped off immediately following buffing of the section
    • pad was cleaned with a pad brush after every couple of sections



    White Wax performed beautifully on this project, even though we were forced to work in full sunshine on a pretty warm day. Thankfully the vehicle in question was white and not black, and we still highly recommend working in the shade on a cool surface.
    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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    Re: The power of White Wax

    Thanks for the write up. This is exactly what I was looking for when using white wax.
    99 Grand Prix
    02 Camaro SS

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    • #3
      Re: The power of White Wax

      Amazing results!

      Those photos and video speak for themselves! That vid shows a dramatic difference.

      So do you think by wiping off the WW immediately after buffing you compromised its protection a little?
      Originally posted by Blueline
      I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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      • #4
        Re: The power of White Wax

        Originally posted by davey g-force View Post

        So do you think by wiping off the WW immediately after buffing you compromised its protection a little?
        Not really, no. But if you're ever concerned about adding extra protection and you don't have a lot of time (this was, after all, intended to be a one step detail) then a good spray wax like UQW or D156 is a great follow up. The polymer protection in those two is surprisingly durable, and it's what we used on the WWII bomber both times.
        Michael Stoops
        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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        • #5
          Re: The power of White Wax

          After rereading this I had the same question Davey asked about any compromises in the durability of applying and removing white wax without letting it haze. Michael thanks for answering that and providing additional information on following up with either UWQ or D156. This is very helpful.
          99 Grand Prix
          02 Camaro SS

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          • #6
            Re: The power of White Wax

            Who's the handsome rooster on camera duties? WW really brought out their best side in the shiny paint reflections!

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            • #7
              The more I see you guys use this, the more I want to pick up a tube! For the abilities white wax has as an all in one product, is a good replacement for color x?

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              • #8
                Re: The power of White Wax

                Yes it is. It offers more correction than colorx. Doesn't hurt to have it in your arsenal for those quick details.
                99 Grand Prix
                02 Camaro SS

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                • #9
                  Re: The power of White Wax

                  One word: IMPRESSED!

                  Thanx for the write-up (and further information) Mike.

                  Bill

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                  • #10
                    This is what I went to when my boss asked me to wax his daughters car. Very well kept, but never before polished of waxed. I used my Craftsman 5" d/a variable speed sander, a green CCS polishing pad, and got to work. I was also in the sun that day. Again, Meguiar's comes through with the win.

                    My Dad had a Dodge Charger. White. It has never been waxed, aside from some Quick Wax I applied back in 09. This will be my next test for White Wax.

                    Also, my neighbor at work used it on his Caddy and loved it! He applied it with a rotary polisher, and finished with M26.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The power of White Wax

                      Originally posted by Selectchoice View Post
                      Who's the handsome rooster on camera duties? WW really brought out their best side in the shiny paint reflections!
                      Funny stuff!!!


                      This was actually a side project I did recently and, even though I don't usually post my own detailing projects this one made sense to share because of the dramatic change brought about with just White Wax. For me personally it was sort of strange working in direct sunlight - it was the first time I wore sunglasses while detailing, and that was simply because that expanse of white paint in the California sunshine was just blindingly bright. No reflections to start, but still really bright! The fun part was standing in front of the huge expanse of white paint with no reflection, buffing a section, and watching the reflections appear as I wiped off the residue. I just never got tired of that!
                      Michael Stoops
                      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The power of White Wax

                        Looks like this will be my product of choice for my daily driver (white paint that has been somewhat neglected). Was looking for an AIO and this will fit the bill. I will wash, clay, then some WW with DA
                        and polish pad.

                        Some questions though:

                        what is your size definition of a large dollop? I have seen the consistency of WW is more like toothpaste in some thread pics. So would the amount you apply on a regular toothbrush be adequate for
                        each 3x3 section you are working on? or would that be the equivalent of "1 large dollop".

                        Reason I am asking is that I read some threads that said it took some effort to remove WW after haze. Want to make sure I am not doing the same mistake and apply just the right amount.

                        Thanks!!

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                        • #13
                          Re: The power of White Wax

                          From the Master himself! Great Reflective Gloss (what I call white's and lighter colors) That makes 2 of us now that has used this Great Product as a compound/cleaner on dull and very badly oxidized paint with Amazing results!

                          Love that you even took the time to do a before and after video for better coverage to put into your post as well!

                          Hope you don't mind if I steal that great idel from you and maybe use it from time to time?

                          Again Great job!!!!
                          ''USE THE LEAST AGGRESSIVE PRODUCT TO GET THE JOB DONE RIGHT''
                          You Don't Know What You Can Do Until You Try '' TECHNIQUE IS EVERYTHING''
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                          • #14
                            Re: The power of White Wax

                            Originally posted by Daniel Kinder View Post

                            Love that you even took the time to do a before and after video for better coverage to put into your post as well!

                            Hope you don't mind if I steal that great idel from you and maybe use it from time to time?

                            Again Great job!!!!
                            Go ahead and steal the idea.... not sure it was really "my idea" after all!!!

                            As for your experience with White Wax on that nasty trailer, it's nice to see someone else experiencing the power of White Wax. But don't think it's just for white or light colored vehicles. There are a few before and after shots of a metallic black Jaguar I did with WW recently, paired with our new DFC5 thin foam cutting disc, and as a one step it was nothing short of spectacular.

                            Oh, what the heck.... so that you don't have to go digging for them:


                            Before:


                            After:


                            This was one section pass with a G110v2, DFC5 foam cutting disc, and White Wax. Car owner specifically said he was NOT looking for a show car shine, so we discussed a one step. Microfiber hazed this paint, but the new cutting disc left this finish. To be very candid, I didn't quite believe it at first so I did an IPA wipe down. And then another. And then another. After three such wipedowns I was pretty well convinced and just did the whole car. Yep, there are a couple of RIDS here, no doubt about it..... but that's what you get with a one step process; you are NOT chasing a true show car shine nor are you getting paid for that amount of time. You know you did right when the car owner sees the finished project, his jaw hits the ground and he is truly speechless.
                            Michael Stoops
                            Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                            Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The power of White Wax

                              Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                              There are a few before and after shots of a metallic black Jaguar I did with WW recently, paired with our new DFC5 thin foam cutting disc, and as a one step it was nothing short of spectacular.

                              Oh, what the heck.... so that you don't have to go digging for them:


                              Before:


                              After:


                              ...You know you did right when the car owner sees the finished project, his jaw hits the ground and he is truly speechless.
                              You sure got that kitty purring again Mike! Great job- with a less than everyday combo of product/pad!

                              Is it just me or are the new DA's and pad choices really giving the heavier compound 'starting points' a real run for their money?

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