Hot Rims- Aluminum stripping clear coat

[s word]

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That's a great list of uses for our products in and around the house!


Of course she won't. Time spent detailing her car is time taken away from you cleaning the house!!!! Hey, you dug this hole yourself, friend!

True Mike. But at least I get to do it using my tools. Ex: did not do stove top last night, instead I was swiffering the floor in one of the bathrooms. I noticed I was getting the surface clean but any of the grout or pitting in the tile was just getting passed over. So G110v2 combine with APC+ and yellow pad...never seen the tile or grout cleaner.

Screw car detailing business I am going to switch over to home detailing.

Mike here is my product suggestion- A DA like head attached to a Swiffer or Bona style cleaning mop. Make the DA part really heavy so you don;t have to apply too much pressure because leverage will be odd. with the thick foam pad this tool will be able to get in deeper and clean better than 100% of the affordable home cleanign tools out there. I know it is a stretch but G110v2 reall does kick *** around the home.

[Michael Stoops]

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That's a great list of uses for our products in and around the house!

All this and wife still won't let me detail her car.

Of course she won't. Time spent detailing her car is time taken away from you cleaning the house!!!! Hey, you dug this hole yourself, friend!

[s word]

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Thanks for the follow up. So you polished your kitchen sink with the Dynacone, huh? Nice!!

Believe it or not Mike Meguiars is more of a home cleaning supply company than you may think.

My wife has a long history of not letting me detail her car, so instead to showcase my work and tools I turned them on the house

Here are some things I have done...

-dynacone polished sink, yes. dynacone polished fixtures, yes.
-G110v2 finishing pad with UC, cleaned the water spots right off my shower glass. dynaconed the metal trim this saved me soo much time compare to trying it by hand. everyone that cleans a house should own a G110v2. its a whole new market for Megs.
-G110v2 yellow pad with UC, removed hard water residue built up on my sink and counter tops both man-made and granite.
-APC+ has become the household cleaner, recently used to clean throw up from my daughters room including sheets and curtains.
-certain old wood finishing stuff i have is being used on my cupboards and base boards
-anyone reading this use a test spot before trying...but because stainless steel tends to collect oil finger prints I have found APC+ gets it cleaner than many other products which are designed for that job
-my washer and dryer are outside (yes kinda ghetto) and they collect dust. so after a spray detail and polish I added some ultimate paste wax to aid in easing future cleaning.
-want to G110v2 the oven top which is painted black so hopefully will do that this weekend.

I saw a post a while back of some guy doing something similar, I was inspired and went for it.

All pads used are isolated for house use only, they are pads that got abused when working on cars. so i am glad i was able to give them a second life.
All this and wife still won't let me detail her car. But at least she lets me detail mine which is all that matters.

[Michael Stoops]

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Thanks for the follow up. So you polished your kitchen sink with the Dynacone, huh? Nice!!

[s word]

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I am just trying to follow up on my old posts to try to express long term resolutions. In this case I still own the rims with the flaked off clear. I am still likely the only person that will notice so I haven't done anything in terms of refinishing the wheels.

A few things changed from the past
-now I always use spray detailer or spray wax when cleaning the rims outside of washing the car
-I use a variety of wheel cleaners still including hot rims.
-I use wheel woolie to clean all the crevasses

Also I would like to note that I have experienced no further flaking of the clear coat.
The dynacone was not used to polish rim or help with further clear coat removal.
But it was used to polish my exhaust tips and it left them perfect.
Also dynacone was used on the kitchen sink for amazing results.

[Richard1]

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You can also shine it up, leaving that texture (I know what you are talking about) with soda blasting. Google it and you can make a simple soda blaster that will clean up aluminum.

[s word]

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Very interesting post.
The nice thing about aluminum is you can always sand and polish whatever went wrong.
I started these with 220 grit, down to 1500 grit, then Meguiar's Mag & Aluminum Polish.

Right now I am living with the flaking. It is not that visible from standing height. I am probably the only one that sees it when i am hand cleaning the rims.

I think if i choose to refinish myself i will use aircraft stripper and then just a metal polish on meguiars dynacone. I am not sure if sanding will be necessary. Also the polished lip has a finished texture to it that I don;t even want to come close to with sand paper. It is made up with a bunch of very fine grooves. Excuse my lack of being able to explain how it looks better.

[Richard1]

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Very interesting post.
The nice thing about aluminum is you can always sand and polish whatever went wrong.
I started these with 220 grit, down to 1500 grit, then Meguiar's Mag & Aluminum Polish.

[s word]

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This is why I added a little line in my last post saying "after further research" because I found the clear flaking to be a common issue on slightly older rims (1+ yr old). It is not rampant issue where I would blow ESM up for it, but it does happen.
Did you aircraft paint remover the entire wheel? or did you just do the lip? I am totally down for this process as my car has these huge clear and non clear blotches on some wheels.

To go back to my original post where I said by following the product instruction the clear flaked off. After testing in the garage last night what I think happened is that the clear must have been coming up slightly (previous to me cleaning the wheel the correct way). When I sprayed and it let sit, the edge of the clear coat started to loosen up and loses the bond to the metal (at the edges). Likely the soap in the wheel cleaner in action doing what it should. This caused a bit of lift on the edge of the clear coat, which then when wiped flakes right off.

Also to be clear Meguiars and Michael have been completely helpful this entire time, never once did they clear themselves of the issue. They were always there trying to help remedy and understand the issue. They were truly concerned and a great partner. I mean the help really got to a point of offering above and beyond customer service which I find does not typically exist these days. The product in no way caused my issue, the issue must have already existed. The correct process on the product must have just pushed my clear to the breaking point causing the issue.

Though I still need to strip and polish the wheel. I feel like I am making advances in my understanding of what happened.

I am now the proud owner of a dynacone polishing kit from megs. I tried using it on area of the rim where there is clear and non clear. It ripped up a good amount of the remaining clear. So until I can further strip the clear another way, the polishing tool will remain in the bag.

I do pretty much nightly maintenance so I am not worried about cleaning the rims as I rather have shiny rims that I have to clean regularly than rims that look blotchy that I have to touch up less.

[Rocksteady-Rebel]

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I has the ESM similar to the LM BBS Wheels for a while. Got them cheap due to the CC coming off (might be a common issue).

Anyways I got some Aircraft Paint remover and Polished the bare metal. They are High Maintenance but looked so sexy on my E36.

Just my .02 here

[Rocksteady-Rebel]

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I has the ESM similar to the LM BBS Wheels for a while. Got them cheap due to the CC coming off (might be a common issue).

Anyways I got some Aircraft Paint remover and Polished the bare metal. They are High Maintenance but looked so sexy on my E36.

Just my .02 here

[s word]

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My previous post did not come out completely. It had a lot more to it.

I don;t have ability to host the photos but I do have a couple of each different wheel and issue type. It does look like the body shop used harsher cleaner on a few of the rims still so what I took off must have been polish that they tried to correct the problem with unsuccessfully. The photos make the rims look bad because of lighting but to the bare eye the rims aren't horrible.

Would a product like the dynacone polisher (kit) be a wise move at this point? I know it may flake off a little bit more of the clear coat in the process. But I feel like the bare aluminum is not polished therefore that is creating the strange look on the rims, not just that the clear is missing. Not that I am trying to do this on a budget but $30 sounds better than $600 (refurbishing).

I am going to have to agree with you after further research that whatever I did "correctly" progressed the issue faster, but did not create the situation. Not really certain what caused it...manufacturer of rims does not have a length warranty on the finish. I do realize that finish on rims can be compromised by many things so that short warranty is understandable but also does me no favor. I am leading myself down the dynacone kit path for correction. Would post before and after pictures of course if I do, but I may need someones help with the photo hosting.

Also I will be in OC for an appointment in later afternoon of Weds...If anyone from Megs or anyone else on here is down there and wants to see the issue I am more than happy to show them.

[Michael Stoops]

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No, Dodge is Chrysler Corp. but during that time period all the domestic manufacturing facilities were transition to some new paint technologies, and it didn't always work out so well.

Back to your wheels - since it seems that the clear might have been compromised along the edges in some places, it could also be coincidental that the real lifting happened when you used the product "correctly". If it was compromised at all, it was only going to get worse with time and probably would have started peeling even if you had stayed with your non-traditional process. And of course, once the clear is missing from any area, that area will stain if hit with any sort of even moderately aggressive cleaner.

[s word]

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I don't have the ability to host, can I send them to someone to have displayed?

[s word]

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Yeah the flaking is what gets me, that happened on the edges of where the clear already had started coming loose. Which the area with the staining happened to be in (the bare raw aluminum). Now that the clear is missing some of the edges of that area would peel up if hit too hard, but minimally. I am as puzzled as you guys because though I have used the product in a weird way it occurred when used by the book. And on all 4 rims. Rim dealer warrenty is 60 days on finish (with a ton of rules to abide by) a little exaggerated but basically if you install them your finish warranty is void. Again I am placing blame no where just want to know what happened which is down to 1 thing pretty much which is a weak clear from the rim manufacturer. Looks like a future trip to have wheels refinished is in place because the removal doesn;t sound to DIY friendly.

Is Dodge GM? I remember a few people that had Dodge Neons with large sections of missing paint all attributed to the issue you mention. What a bad time for car paint.