Now a 100% Ultimate Liquid Wax user

[ffboy]

Re: Now a 100% Ultimate Liquid Wax user

Yes, I think most of us do our best to wash, dry and maintain our cars' paint finish without instilling swirls, and in my experience, a person with very good practice can induce a lot less swirls on paint than someone who has no idea what they are doing. A really bad person can instill swirls in 1 month than a well-learned person can in 1 year. Glazes are good in my opinion, it does conceal swirls good enough and adds depth and makes paint especially dark colors real wet and rich. But nothing is better than having a really swirl free finish, it's just that it seems impossible to keep the paint that way most of the time.

Collinite 476s is an old school wax, has good depth but I find it's more of a "bright" wax than a deep, rich looking carnauba wax. Yes, it has to be applied real thin and per section. Let it dry for too long, you put yourself in deep trouble. So remove it just as it begins to dry to a haze. For a durable wax, it is quite inexpensive.

Ultimate wax I haven't tried too... Embarassing for me. It's been around since 2011, and during that time it was only the main distributor here in Manila carrying it. It's only now that I'm slowly seeing it around retailers that carry megs products. It's about time they carried it in the outlets...

[Meticulous-Detail]

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My philosophy is learn how to wash, dry and maintain w/o inducing swirls or scratches first. Then correct the vehicle and maintain the finish with the ant-swirl knowledge you've gained. So instead of a swirl fest every year, maybe you only have to correct after several years. I do agree with the theory that polishing every year will eventually destroy the clear and glazes definitely have their place in detailing. I like CG Glossworkz allot.

I have come along way since washing cars without grit guards, in old buckets, with 10 yr old sponges, dish washing liquid and drying them with old bath towels my Mom didn't want anymore. Oh and lets not forget putting way to much liquid wax on with my Strauss buffer to the point I couldn't get it off with my terry cloth towels. Gee I always wondered why they still looked like **** after I got done.

Collonite 476s is probably one of the most inexpensive and durable paste waxes that exist. It is more for the daily driver then a weekend cruiser or show car, but I do use it on my wheels and it is very durable. A nice THIN coat on a daily driver will last 6 months and beyond, even through the auto swirl car washes. If you let it dry too long or put it on too thick, good luck trying to get it off.

I plan on maintaining my Shelby with a glaze and Megs UPW, which I haven't tried yet

[Blue Apollo IV]

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Thanks for the info FFboy - Forgive me, but you haven't been able to get the Ultimate wax line yet over there? Oh...and what's 476's? I've waxed my car so much this week...and washed it that I need a break. I lost my desire to do it at the moment. lol.

[ffboy]

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Finally applied the 2nd coat of wax this morning. 476s on both cars, great results! I should use M07-NXT 2.0 combo more often. Darkens paint even better than 476s, and hides swirls real well. I just hope that when i get to try Ultimate Wax, i will get even better swirl hiding properties.

[ffboy]

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Yep, just did 2 of our cars this afternoon. Both cars I had to apply solvent (kerosene) to remove the high amounts of tar spots (it's been rainy in the past week, and only this week has been dry).

Car 1:

On the car (beige metallic shade), I clayed it after removing the solvent residue, applied M07, NXT 2.0'd the car. Even on light colors, M07 does make a difference, subtle, but enough for me to take that extra step it gives a slightly thicker look and at certain angles and light, does add a level of crispness, and even the metallic flakes seem to be more 3D in appearance. There's a certain darkening and clarity-adding effect, and NXT 2.0 just made it look better. Maybe tom. I'll do something with the wheels and tires.

Next Car:

On the other car (a metallic black SUV), kerosened the body to remove all the tar. You can't see it, but it can be felt and heard as I glide my hand across the paint. I don't recall it getting as rough as this. After removing the residue, applied M07, again not that easy to remove but I've forgetten how good this thing makes dark colors look. It looked a lot wetter, darker, and hid some of the swirls, but to me, M07 doesn't hide swirls as well as I expected but well enough. The shine, depth, richness more than makes up for it. Then, applied a coat of NXT 2.0... pretty straightforward, I like the way it's able to hide swirls. Results were incredible, it still has swirls but NXT 2.0 concealed them quite nicely. M07 added depth and color, the NXT 2.0 added even more depth but "pulled-up" the metallic flakes.

It was a good work out, worth all the sweat, grime and smell from all the items used.

Job not done yet, I plan to apply a 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 or some other wax(I have a couple of collinites) in the morning to complete everything. Certain times, I want to remove swirls. However, as the corrected paint accumulates swirls again( let's face it, it can be unavoidable for whatever reason), i'll move towards hiding and concealing swirls thru a glaze or pure polish or a wax with good swirl hiding abilities. So those waxes (megs, etc.) with fillers that may be unloved by some do make sense. Not all enthusiasts have time or patience in actually removing swirls.

Now rains are inevitable at this season, when it happens I don' know. But I am happy with what I did, when it does rain, cleaning both cars will be a lot easier and will still be shiny.

[davey g-force]

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Thanks very much for the response ffboy.

For the second time in this thread, I think I need to slowly convert my way of thinking! Filling / hiding swirls definitiely has its place, and it probably means I would maintain my sanity for longer!

[ffboy]

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If I remember correctly. M07 is applied, massaged into paint, and removed while wet, M05 or new car glaze works better in humid conditions. It is allowed to dry to a haze, it's definitely not as popular as M07. As for constantly compounding/cleaning to remove swirls or microscratches, it will eventeually wear out the clear coat and can get tiresome, so I prefer to glaze and hide them instead. It works anyway, so a product that hides swirls isn't necessarily a bad thing in my opinion. However, for real paint correction, it is understandable that some detailers don't like products with fillers and some take advantage of them in a bad way, but for average joes like me, I find fillers useful.

[davey g-force]

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You should try Meg's New Car Glaze

Are you referring to M5? I haven't used that before. How does it differ to M7?

[Blue Apollo IV]

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You should try Meg's New Car Glaze or Chemical Guys Glossworkz. These glazes hide those swirls and micro scratches .

Thanks for the tip inyadreems...I will check them out. As I mentioned...I'm not a big fan of constantly compounding and buffing the paint - it only shortens the life of the clearcoat.

[Meticulous-Detail]

Car looks gorgeous! Yeah right you don't obsess....................you waxed your car 5 days in a row lol

Thanks Inyadreems...well, I do keep it clean daily and waxed often - so maybe a tad bit obsessive with the clean aspect - But I just meant I don't worry about swirls and microscratches.

You should try Meg's New Car Glaze or Chemical Guys Glossworkz. These glazes hide those swirls and micro scratches .

[Blue Apollo IV]

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Car looks gorgeous! Yeah right you don't obsess....................you waxed your car 5 days in a row lol

Thanks Inyadreems...well, I do keep it clean daily and waxed often - so maybe a tad bit obsessive with the clean aspect - But I just meant I don't worry about swirls and microscratches.

[davey g-force]

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[Meticulous-Detail]

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As requested by Inyadreems...here are a few pics...keep in mind that I'm not a person that obsesses over every micro scratch...so don't ask for any "sunlight" or "lamp" shots...just does not matter to me - life is too important and precious to worry about such things. But it makes the car look good overall.

Car looks gorgeous! Yeah right you don't obsess....................you waxed your car 5 days in a row lol

[Blue Apollo IV]

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Looks nice, reflections look crisp and sharp. The problem is, it will be very difficult to see the difference between ultimate and NXT 2.0 especially on light colored cars. But being a regular NXT 2.0 user, I can "almost" tell the subtle difference between NXT 2.0 and Ultimate wax. As I observed/experienced, NXT 2.0 gives a slightly thicker glowing look that complements light colored cars.

I agree ffboy. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between NXT2.0 and ULW in blind test personally...but I'm enjoying ULW at the moment...so I'm just going with it. :-)

[ffboy]

Re: Now a 100% Ultimate Liquid Wax user

Looks nice, reflections look crisp and sharp. The problem is, it will be very difficult to see the difference between ultimate and NXT 2.0 especially on light colored cars. But being a regular NXT 2.0 user, I can "almost" tell the subtle difference between NXT 2.0 and Ultimate wax. As I observed/experienced, NXT 2.0 gives a slightly thicker glowing look that complements light colored cars.