ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

[truflip]

The learning curve on this wax is tough for me. I tried applying several different ways and the results are all the same: a lot of elbow grease and gives off a greasy look. Out in the side, my doors and side panels look marred but I know they arent because if I rewipe vertically, the marring follows vertically.

I did notice the wax doesnt seem to dry to a haze (did swipe test side by side by side with NXT 2.0, M16 & ULW). Is it supposed to? Or does that even matter? The problem I seem to have is no matter what I do, wiping off the wax just isn't a smooth process like with NXT 2.0. Once the towel bites you can swipe the entire haze of wax off. With ULW, my towels stick every where so a lot of effort is required. Even tried dampening the towel, mist water and different types of towels. I'm pretty much just smearing the wax everywhere I think.

[Murr1525]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

It really wont dry to a haze.

How thick did you apply it? Could you see your application?

[truflip]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

quite thin. I tried applying by hand and by DA.. I used a PC on speed 3 with an LC Pad (the blue one). The application could barely be seen. I had to be at an angle to see the application. I'm not new to waxing with meguiars products so I'd like to think I applied this one correctly and as thinly as I possibly could.

I saw one thread describing that "massaging" the wax into the paint helps but not so much for me

[Murr1525]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

Did you do the whole car, then remove, or remove right away?

[JET_Fusion]

It sounds like it's being applied way too thick. It needs to be applied so thin it can barely be seen. Also, apply it like a wipe on wipe off product.

[truflip]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

No. I did top first including hood and trunk, then wipe off. did doors, front fender, wipe off. quarter panel, half of rear bumper, wipe off and so on...

After seeing the results outside, i went back and did some more "controlled" testing and used the top of my trunk as the test panel. tried the wipe on and immediately wipe off method. wipe on wait 5 minutes. no go. wipe on wait 10 minutes. 15, 20, 30, 45, 60 mins... all same results. i used clear wax in between applications to kind of start on a "fresh surface" i guess. i've tried misting water on the panel before wiping and even tried misting the towel instead. i tried different towels. some worked better but not that much better to consider thrashing the "bad" towels... towels that I know work fine.

I only have 1/4 of a bottle of NXT left and was hoping UWW would help me from using my M16 too much (I like to wax every 2 weeks or i go into withdrawals )

also, it was sunny here yesterday so i tried under the sun since apparently it can be applied and worked even outdoors. temps were between 20-22C and humidity was fairly low (30-33% i think). same results. the wax just doesnt seem to "settle" and stays "wet"

anymore ideas would be great!

[wifpd4]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

In my experience, massaging or overworking UW will lead to streaking. One quick pass, laid down thin using a PC set at speed 3, with a 4" black, LC pad. There is no traditional haze and the swipe test is not used. Lay down, 3-5 minutes, wipe off and be done.

Your pattern of top down is similar to mine. Lay down 1/2 of the roof and full hood. Wipe off 1/2 roof, lay down other half, wipe off hood, lay down trunk, wipe off roof, etc, etc. Unlike Gold Class when I lay down whole car, wait, swipe test and the wipe off.

[RPPM]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

Try UW Paste, much nicer experience, no streaking, put on entire car, allow to haze, wipe off.

[truflip]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

In my experience, massaging or overworking UW will lead to streaking. One quick pass, laid down thin using a PC set at speed 3, with a 4" black, LC pad. There is no traditional haze and the swipe test is not used. Lay down, 3-5 minutes, wipe off and be done.

Your pattern of top down is similar to mine. Lay down 1/2 of the roof and full hood. Wipe off 1/2 roof, lay down other half, wipe off hood, lay down trunk, wipe off roof, etc, etc. Unlike Gold Class when I lay down whole car, wait, swipe test and the wipe off.

I was using a 6.5" blue pad by Lake Country. According to them, it's slightly softer than their black pad and both are to be used for applying sealant and waxes. I've tried using the PC 7424XP on speed 3 with quick non overlapping passes so it doesnt get "massaged in" per your recommendation. I dont know what it is with me or the wax or the combination of my application and others. I dont know if 6.5" is too large for applying wax but I already tried by hand using those little round yellow Meguiar foam pads which I think applies the thinnest possible wax. I'm basically gliding the pads on the paint when I apply the wax.

Try UW Paste, much nicer experience, no streaking, put on entire car, allow to haze, wipe off.

I thought about it but I've thrown out the receipt being so confident this is the next NXT and better than NXT.
Going to check my CC statements and see if the store can exchange it through that.

Thanks all for your input.

[wifpd4]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

I haven't had trouble with overlapping(i try to overlap a little bit to insure coverage), I just find trying to massage the wax in or passing over it repeatedly creates "wind rows" of thicker lines of wax that may create streaks.

I go around logos, badges and mirrors by hand using foam applicators and I usually get the wax thicker than using a PC. I still use concentric (or spiral) circles out of habit. Not my aim to be thicker, just happens.

I'm fairly certain the size of the pad may not make a difference only the thickness of the wax application. For me the smaller pad is easier to manuver around curves, creases, or other features on the body. Pad softness may determine if you leave swirls. If the pad absorbs wax I would think you just get more wax coverage (sq. ft.) between replenishing the wax on the pad.

[goldenlight]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

I usually do the whole vehicle then I start wiping off. This works best for me.

[ethereal45]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

Was the humidity level really high? I know people tend to have more problems wiping it off without it smearing when the humidity level is high.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

Ultimate Wax, especially in liquid form, is a very unique formulation for us. If you're having issues with streaking or an uneven appearance when using it you should try applying to one panel at a time and the wiping off right away. As always, a very thin coat is all that's needed and that's generally really easy to achieve with this product due to its "Thin Film" technology. The swipe test isn't really valid with this product, so don't worry about it not looking "dry" as you've come to expect of our waxes. Apply to a panel, wipe off right away. If that doesn't solve the issue, please contact our Customer Care Center at 800.347.5700 and they can arrange for a replacement product for you.

[Blue Apollo IV]

Re: ULW, supposed to dry to a haze?

Ultimate Wax, especially in liquid form, is a very unique formulation for us. If you're having issues with streaking or an uneven appearance when using it you should try applying to one panel at a time and the wiping off right away. As always, a very thin coat is all that's needed and that's generally really easy to achieve with this product due to its "Thin Film" technology. The swipe test isn't really valid with this product, so don't worry about it not looking "dry" as you've come to expect of our waxes. Apply to a panel, wipe off right away. If that doesn't solve the issue, please contact our Customer Care Center at 800.347.5700 and they can arrange for a replacement product for you.

Hi Michael - Not trying to be argumentative at all...but just curious as to why it's frequently recommended to wipe on and wipe off the wax by Meguiars specialists...yet on the package it specifically says to "let product dry to a haze". Is this a typo on the product packaging? Is it a true wipe on/wipe off/no waiting wax?