Topping silver with Gold Class

[TheSublimeGoose]

Hi all-

Getting ready to do a complete detail on my silver 2012 Ford Fiesta. I'll be using UW as my LSP.

I've used this product before with great results. I maintained it with UQD/UQW. I noticed whenever I used UQW, the paint seemed to really "pop". In fact, I think it looked better than right after applying UW. This got me thinking- is it because of the carnauba in the UQW?

So, would it be worthwhile to pick up some GC Carnauba Plus wax to top the UW? The Internet consensus seems to be no for silver cars, but I'd like to get some more opinions.

Also, would maintaining the protection with UQD/UQW present an issue, since I'd be applying synthetic products on top of a carnauba?

Thanks, all!

-Mark

[Mark58]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

I would keep doing same as you are now and replace UQW with" Gold Class Carnauba Plus Quik Wax" as soon as it is available.



Product attributes:

• Delivers a deep, rich, more traditional wax finish
• Tactile evidence of the “wax” protection that’s left behind
• Non-whitening on trim
• Can be applied in full sun

Part Number: G7716
Size: 16 ounce
MSRP: $9.49

Perfect for all colors, and exceptional on black vehicles, this new edition to the Meguiar's Gold Class family is the answer to achieving quick, dark, wet-looking shine. With a simple mist-on, wipe-off, Carnauba+Plus Quik Wax delivers the rich, warm protection that only carnauba can deliver. The "+Plus" in this formula means it won't leave white residue on plastic or trim, and unlike most waxes, Carnauba+Plus Quik Wax can be applied to a warm surface in direct sun.

[TheSublimeGoose]

So, you're suggesting to use the new GCQW instead of GC Paste/Liquid?

Or to apply GC Paste/Liquid on top of the UW and maintain with GCQW?

[Mark58]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

So, you're suggesting to use the new GCQW instead of GC Paste/Liquid?

Or to apply GC Paste/Liquid on top of the UW and maintain with GCQW?

I prefer Ultimate liquid wax. I found that I had to apply twice since I had some darker blotches on Black paint. Maintain with GCQW.

[TheSublimeGoose]

So, wouldn't just applying GC liquid/paste wax as a topper to UW be more durable than the new quick wax, with the same results?

[Mark58]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

New quick wax would be used after quick detailer to give it little extra protection.

[umi000]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

I believe it's already available over at AG .

[TheSublimeGoose]

Yep- I've already ordered UW&WA from there.

Dunno if I'm better off with the new GC QW or just to get the paste or liquid version?

[mb911]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

Yep- I've already ordered UW&WA from there.

Dunno if I'm better off with the new GC QW or just to get the paste or liquid version?

Hi Mark...you might very well find that Gold Class Paste or Liquid deepens the paint and pops the paint more than Ultimate Wax. I always think a carnauba, when first applied, looks better than a synthetic.

However, Gold Class Liquid and Paste doesn't last as long as Ultimate Wax.

Therefore, you must decide, look or longevity.

I go back and forth. If I don't think I will get to wax for a month or two, I might put on a longer lasting product like Ultimate Wax.

If I think I can wax again in 3-4 weeks or even sooner, I will sometimes choose the carnauba like Gold Class.


Ultimate Quick Wax is fantastic to restore some wax look between full wax jobs. On silver, I see no reason you can't keep using it for "touch ups," after a wash or quick detailing. However, you can try Gold Class Quick Wax instead, just for fun to check it out. Many of us love trying different products. It might give even more of that carnauba look you seem to like than UQW.

I believe many are excited about Gold Class Quick Wax as it sounds like its has more carnauba than Ultimate Quick Wax. Therefore, many are thinking they will top their synthetic sealant with a little Carnauba Spray Wax to have some best of both worlds.

I tend not to top a full wax with a Quick Wax right after the full wax because at least in my head, I feel like I'm removing the longer lasting, traditional wax. I wait until I think I need to restore some look/protection.

In conclusion, if you don't mind the cost of trying Gold Class Quick Wax, give it a try. I think you would like Gold Class paste or liquid too, even on my silver car I like carnauba. Nevertheless, it doesn't last that long.

[TheSublimeGoose]

Mb911- Thanks for the response. Not sure if you saw my earlier posts. I was planning on topping UW with GC, not replacing UW with GC.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

Unfortunately, this really isn't an easy question to answer. If what you're most concerned with here is the look of the paint following a wax, then that final look is going to be pretty personal to you. Synthetics tend to impart a brighter and crisper shine than carnauba does, which is why they are so often recommended on lighter colors. The carnauba content in UWQ isn't all that high so we doubt that's what's giving you the extra pop you're seeing after applying it. More likely it's just the fact that you've just added a fresh bit of a gloss enhancing product.

So whether topping UW with GC is going to get you the look you're after or not is tough to say. You may like it, you may love it, or you may not like it as much as someone else does! Honestly, we aren't trying to dodge the question here or add confusion to the topic - it's just that you like what you like, and so it's hard to tell you that any combo is going to present something specific to you. That's part of why so many detailing enthusiasts love to experiment with waxes, and it's also why so many go a little nuts and suddenly find themselves with 20 different waxes/sealants in the garage!

[TheSublimeGoose]

Thanks, Michael!

Guess the only way to find out is to try it!

I'll be picking up a new UW and some GC soon. Here's another question- if I use UW paste should I use GC paste and vice-versa? Or would it not matter?

[jezz12]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

Thanks, Michael!

Guess the only way to find out is to try it!

I'll be picking up a new UW and some GC soon. Here's another question- if I use UW paste should I use GC paste and vice-versa? Or would it not matter?

Either one should be fine I think. It's all depends on your preferences. As for me, I love liquid waxes and it was so much easier to be applied compared to paste IMHO. By the way, Mark, I hope you can post the result once you topped GCQW on your silver car cause I'm thinking of doing the same thing to my car

[TheSublimeGoose]

Jezz, I sure will!

I'm pretty excited to try it! I'll post it here, but in case you forget about this thread, I'll PM you the results.

I'm assuming you have a silver car?

[jezz12]

Re: Topping silver with Gold Class

Nope! Mine is what you can see from the picture, a medium blue car. Somehow I really like your idea topping with GCQW. While I do love the looks that a carnauba gave, I just simply can't resist the slickness that a sealant has to offer. That's why I'm considering topping my base coat with GCQW. Anyway, Good luck Mark for your detailing session. Make sure you post the result once you finished. Hope to hear from you soon