UW liquid smearing

[Fallz]

My 2011 black GM truck is polished with a one step and has 2 layers of Finishkare 1000P on it . I wanted to use UW to top it for winter so I have the liquid and applied with my PC at a med. speed (3) and it layer down nice and wiped off nice , but left a lot of smearing oily residue behind. when it got touched it was leaving finger prints all over it and you could see the smearing by looking in the light.

I them wiped it down with UQD and that took care of it . But why would this be happening in the first place ?? What did I do wrong ?? I also went out and bought the paste UW to try that but have not had a chance.

Thank you

[Murr1525]

Re: UW liquid smearing

The UW liquid needs to be applied extremely thin.

Just used it again 2 weeks ago. I actually applied to the whole car, but then almost immediately start removing. I also like to very lightly mist my towel with water before wiping a panel, or part of a panel. Seemed to work very well and easy.

I think there are a few other techniques out there. And the past may be a bit easier to remove.

[Mark58]

Re: UW liquid smearing

I think Mike Phillips recommends to do a whole car before wiping it. I do one panel at the time.

[davey g-force]

Re: UW liquid smearing

You can apply it either way (whole car at once, or one panel at a a time) but Mike Stoops recommends one panel at a time if you're having smearing issues.

You can also very lightly mist some water onto a MF towel to correct any smearing issues..

[Michael Stoops]

Re: UW liquid smearing

If you're experiencing any streaking or smearing with UW liquid then applying to just a panel at a time and wiping off after just 3 to 5 minutes should take care of it. This product can noticeably darken darker colored paints, and the polymers bond to the paint pretty quickly. Since it's darn near impossible to lay any wax down 100% perfectly uniform, if you let this sit a bit too long and it's at all uneven, you'll see that dark and darker look due to the polymer load being left behind a bit unevenly. If you wipe off sooner rather than later you actually help to redistribute the polymers a bit before they've gotten too far in their crosslinking process and the uneven appearance goes away. But it really does need to be applied very thin, which should be super easy given the thin film technology in the product. In fact, even on a dark colored car it should be a bit tricky to see where you've applied and where you haven't it will go on so thin.

If you have the paste version but haven't tried it yet, you really should. While the liquid version is the ONLY wax/sealant in our lineup where we suggest the fast wipe off noted above, with the paste you should treat it like all of our other waxes and let it dry fully before wipe off. But that's easy to do because it dries pretty quickly - as soon as you're done applying it to the entire vehicle it should be dry where you started the application process. As mentioned in another thread, over the Thanksgiving weekend I waxed all three of our cars at home with the paste version in one afternoon. Super easy on and off, not a streak, smear or uneven color to be found.

Be advised, however, that while the liquid version won't stain black plastic and vinyl trim, the paste can. But that's down to the ingredients that make it a paste, not because of any "active ingredients" being different from one to the other.

[Shawn T.]

Re: UW liquid smearing

I love the paste!!!

[Fallz]

Re: UW liquid smearing

I think I applied it to heavy after reading this , I will give it another try and give the paste a try too.

Could it be a problem that I have the 1000P under it ??

I also have the Ultimate Polish/Glaze , but did not use that , should I use it to remove the 1000P and start over ??

I do like the deeper dark finish on my black truck that the UW gave me .

[Murr1525]

Re: UW liquid smearing

I wouldnt expect another wax to be a problem.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: UW liquid smearing

A pre-existing wax shouldn't be a problem. If you think you applied UW too thick, then you probably did. It's a very common mistake, and the small amount that's actually needed is often hard for people to wrap their head around! With the countless demos we've done over the years we always have people standing with a stunned look on their face when they see just how little product is actually needed. Think about the whole process of waxing a car: you move product from the bottle to an applicator to the paint, spreading it around as evenly as possible. The wax dries and you wipe off the excess, leaving behind........... what? Not a heck of a lot of product, right? That means everything you wiped off is now collected in your towel and will ultimately be washed down the drain when you wash that towel. And whether you apply the wax really thick or really light, the same amount is going to be left behind when you wipe off the dried excess. And "excess" is the key word here. Everything that does not bond to the paint and is left behind when you wipe off the haze is "excess". So the less you can apply the less excess you'll have to wipe off. Not only that, but any wax will dry faster if applied thinner, virtually all are easier to wipe off if applied thinner (and some are tremendously easier to wipe off when thin and darn near impossible if thickly applied!) and you waste less product when you apply it thinner.

[the_mighty_bucket]

Re: UW liquid smearing

Try applying only one panel at a time. Don't allow the wax to dry for too long. Otherwise it'll be hell to remove the streaking / smearing. And remember to turn your towel often. I usually start removing the residue immediately after i'm done applying one panel, if there're still streaking or residue, i'd spray a very thin layer of water or quick detailer and wipe clean.


And, maybe you should try buy some of those 'extra thick / high density' MF towels.

[umi000]

Re: UW liquid smearing

Try applying only one panel at a time. Don't allow the wax to dry for too long. Otherwise it'll be hell to remove the streaking / smearing. And remember to turn your towel often. I usually start removing the residue immediately after i'm done applying one panel, if there're still streaking or residue, i'd spray a very thin layer of water or quick detailer and wipe clean.

And, maybe you should try buy some of those 'extra thick / high density' MF towels.

Not looking to argue here - just posting my experience, but I've found wax removal to be easier with shorter nap towels vs very plush ones. The shorter nap towels have more of a "bite" to them, allowing for easier removal of residue, whereas the longer nap towels tend to smear the residue around. The disadvantage of shorter nap towels is that they get loaded up with residue quicker, so you need to change sides (and towels) sooner.

[Blue Apollo IV]

Re: UW liquid smearing

Same old story....start hoping for Ultimate wax 2.0 next year.

[the_mighty_bucket]

Re: UW liquid smearing

Not looking to argue here - just posting my experience, but I've found wax removal to be easier with shorter nap towels vs very plush ones. The shorter nap towels have more of a "bite" to them, allowing for easier removal of residue, whereas the longer nap towels tend to smear the residue around. The disadvantage of shorter nap towels is that they get loaded up with residue quicker, so you need to change sides (and towels) sooner.

No problem and actually i agree with you. But the 'thick/high density' towel is thick simply because its much higher weaving density. the nap is about the same length as normal MF but offer several times more 'cut' in one wipe.

I said so because i've been using Sonax's 'nano liquid wax' for several years, it dries ultra quick (under 3 minutes) and it's tricky because when it dries, it's almost impossible to wipe clean using normal MF and i had to change sides very often. So i needed MF towels with extra 'cut' and can hold more residues.

[umi000]

Re: UW liquid smearing

No problem and actually i agree with you. But the 'thick/high density' towel is thick simply because its much higher weaving density. the nap is about the same length as normal MF but offer several times more 'cut' in one wipe.

I said so because i've been using Sonax's 'nano liquid wax' for several years, it dries ultra quick (under 3 minutes) and it's tricky because when it dries, it's almost impossible to wipe clean using normal MF and i had to change sides very often. So i needed MF towels with extra 'cut' and can hold more residues.

Ah, got what you meant - yes, I agree a higher density (not plusher) towel would be better than a thinner one.

[Fallz]

Re: UW liquid smearing

Thanks for the tips guys I am going to try liquid and the paste , I have UQD and USW on hand too . I also have the Ult. polish / glaze but have not used it since i polished it and it has a good wax hard shell base already.