Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

[j.linz]

This new wax product is quite difficult to remove without dealing with dark blotches and streaks. I have used it now on 4 cars and still having issues. I tried putting it on very thin, dry applicator and them a moist applicator with no success. I was wondering if the paste formula is any better? I do like that it beads water like crazy and last at least 4 months before it starts to show wear. Please help if anyone has any new secrets in using the product, otherwise I will go back to the NXT products.:

[BillE]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

Did you let it 'haze' before you wiped it off? Just asking.

I've found (as others) doing a section at a time, let it dwell for a short period (like just few minuets or so). Then wipe off. The stuff takes (for me) overnight to fully 'cure'. I then do a 'final wipe' (next day) with a touch of UQD. Oh, I'm also using a DA for application, so it goes down crazy thin.

One thing...I sure would not like to be using UW liquid or paste for 'production' work...it is not a fast product.

My $.02...

Bill

[wifpd4]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

Perhaps it's because I've only used one bottle of NXT it's hard for me to draw a comparison with Ultimate Liquid Wax. Like Bill, I work thin. I use a Porter Cable set at speed three and a soft, 4" black Lake Country pad and a fast arm speed. I only use a foam applicator to lay down the ULW by hand around mirrors, logos or lettering and the front and rear bumpers.

I had streaking on my own car when working off a step ladder to do the roof. I was only going to do one coat and wanted to insure coverage, so I worked the ULW like it was a polish. Extra overlapping passes with the PC. When I went to wipe it off, it streaked. However, I just wiped a few additional times and the streaks disappeared.

Of the few cars I do, most of the cars I do are black. I did a metallic silver Buick Lacerne last week. The ULW seemed to disappear while being laid down making it difficult to insure 100% coverage, but no discernible streaking.

For me at least, if you think you are putting it on too thin, it's probably just right.

[Mark58]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

As with most waxes you should do it twice to stop any streaking. I had same problem on black car.

[Shawn T.]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

The paste version is a bit more user-friendly and I have no had any streaking issues with it.

[Jossy92]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

I tried putting it on very thin, dry applicator and them a moist applicator with no success.

How much "it" did you put on the applicators?

A thin coat of NXT isn't "UW thin". I think in the "art of detailing", UW requires the most artistry. I had to cut off an ear to finally start getting "thin" and I still mess it up. I read that the added "paste" ingredients result in the application of thin UW after they flash off.

[Jossy92]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

I was wondering if the paste formula is any better?

I just noticed this post regarding the paste:

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...Apply-M16-ThinGreat

Just thought I would share my favorite method of applying paste wax. Last weekend I waxed my truck with UW topped with M16. I'm sure the UW made the removal of M16 easier, but I think the thin layer I applied was the main reason removal was ao easy.

I apply paste waxes via the DA with a 4 inch finishing pad. Here is my technique.

1. Make sure the wax in the tin is flat. If not, take a hand applicator pad and flatten it out. Do not use this pad as it will probably be loaded with product.
2. With the 4 inch pad on your DA, gently put the pad in the tin and do a few light dabs up an down. Do not turn the DA on and do not move the pad side to side or swipe it. All that is needed is a few dabs up and down. This should get a very small amount of product on the pad.
3. Put the pad on the car and start spreading the product. This should be enough product for 1 panel, maybe 2.
4. Go back to step 2, dabbing the pad about every panel or when you believe the pad needs more product.

This method worked like a charm. It applies thin and uniform, and is a breeze to wipe off. If you have ever applied M16 too thick before, you know how much of a pain it is to wipe off. I love the product but haven't used it much because of hard removal, but now I have a great way to consistently use it. This method can be used with any paste wax and not just M16.

[wifpd4]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

How much "it" did you put on the applicators?

A thin coat of NXT isn't "UW thin". I think in the "art of detailing", UW requires the most artistry. I had to cut off an ear to finally start getting "thin" and I still mess it up. I read that the added "paste" ingredients result in the application of thin UW after they flash off.

Which ear? It makes a difference.

[Blue Apollo IV]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

How much "it" did you put on the applicators?
I think in the "art of detailing", UW requires the most artistry.

That's just another way to say it's not a consumer friendly product and doesn't make you want to spend $20 again for it.

[mb911]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

I agree. I have a couple times gotten it to work "Ok," but it was a lot of work.

Honestly, I should have never bought it in paste and liquid.

Why not just use NXT or Gold Class which are a dream to use, and use them more regularly? I'd rather have to wax 4x more often and have a fun application and removal process.

I think my UW won't be touched much in the future. The paste I might have never opened, I should sell it on Amazon.

[Murr1525]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

Certainly have to find products that fit your technique.

But I dunno.. was pretty easy for me to use, but that just means it fits what I do apparently.

[wifpd4]

Re: Dissatisfied with Ultimate Liquid wax application

Certainly have to find products that fit your technique.

But I dunno.. was pretty easy for me to use, but that just means it fits what I do apparently.

Into my third bottle and I like the stuff.