NXT Wax 2.0 has short life

[greg0303]

Re: NXT Wax 2.0 has short life

Here are my steps for perfecting my paint:

1) Wash - Gold Class or UWW
2) Clean - Smooth Surface Clay Kit
3) Prep - UC, followed by SwirlX
4) Polish - DC2 or M07 (optional; but for dark colors its a MUST)
5) Wax/Seal - TechWax 2.0; wait at least 12 hours for the curing process,
then topped with GCCP paste.
6) Maintain - Last Touch or UQW (booster).

That's Rx for a show car shine.

[yakky]

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Prep, storage conditions and wash method/products affect durability. Some people get a year out of Gold Class, they park in a garage, wash with a gentle soap and top with a detailer or quick wax. Others park outdoors and go through a tunnel wash and get a month. Grab something that is a durability king like Megs #16 or Collinite 845IW and put it on half your hood, the other half NXT. Then you can really compare.

[ffboy]

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i think most waxes require some kind of in-between maintenance regime whether spray detailer of some sort or spray wax to really keep the wax protection in tact. For spray wax, i'd stay in line with the same manufacturer as the wax itself (meguiars wax, meguiars spray wax for compatibilty). I'm sure you'll get to like NXT 2.0. the big worry here is that one shifts from NXT or meguiars to get better durabilty, then realizes in time that the different brand isn't that better then shifts to another brand than another... and in time, just for kicks, tries out the nxt again and realizes that the NXT 2.0 is good.. Mr. Meguiar will be biased towards his products, but you can't argue with many of his points about wax durability. environment, method of washing, prepping, etc.

Another option for me to improve its durability is to add a last step product. I have reflections top coat and while it adds depth and wet look factor, the paint is smoother after applying it but the slippery slick feel from a carnauba based finish isn't present. I used deep crystal carnauba wax before and its quite awesome especially on black and its slickness is very good..

[roushstage2]

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Prep and environmental conditions that the car is in have a FAR greater impact on the life of the wax than the wax itself.

[ffboy]

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Thats why i wanna try deep crystal polish before applying tech wax 2.0. I have a claybar kit from mothers, claying really does wonders.. Any wax is easier to work with. I'm just curious as to how much difference deep crystal polish will make to the wax and its durability.. or is it purely cosmetic? i'll try it one day.

Roushstage2, have tried other brands of paint sealant/waxes? There seems to be alot of brands that claim they perform better than meguiars..

[jfelbab]

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My opinion, based on my experiences with NXT 2.0 and M21 v2.0. I've been able to reproduce the short life issue, consistently. Here is what I found as the cause.

When removing the product, after the swipe test, if I rub the residue off with a lot of passion I wind up with a shorter life. I speculate that I am removing a lot of the protection while buffing the product off the car. Bearing in mind that the product has set but not yet cured, this makes sense to me. If I remove the residue with gentle buffing action and use only enough pressure and passes to remove the haze, all is fine. In the case of removing these products less wiping seems to lead to greater and longer lasting protection. Once the product has fully cured (>12hours) the product seems to be unaffected by additional buffing. Try it and let me know if your experience is the same.

[Michael Stoops]

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When removing the product, after the swipe test, if I rub the residue off with a lot of passion I wind up with a shorter life. I speculate that I am removing a lot of the protection while buffing the product off the car. Bearing in mind that the product has set but not yet cured, this makes sense to me. If I remove the residue with gentle buffing action and use only enough pressure and passes to remove the haze, all is fine.

Exactly right. All you need to do is wipe off the hazed excess product once it's dry. There is nothing to gain from "buffing" the surface after removing the haze - you don't increase the gloss by doing that you just continue to remove more and more product. You're actually removing what you should be leaving behind.

[Shawn T.]

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Here are my steps for perfecting my paint:

1) Wash - Gold Class or UWW
2) Clean - Smooth Surface Clay Kit
3) Prep - UC, followed by SwirlX
4) Polish - DC2 or M07 (optional; but for dark colors its a MUST)
5) Wax/Seal - TechWax 2.0; wait at least 12 hours for the curing process,
then topped with GCCP paste.
6) Maintain - Last Touch or UQW (booster).

That's almost my exact regimen except I like to use 2 coats of GCCP.

[Bill Davidson]

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Exactly right. All you need to do is wipe off the hazed excess product once it's dry. There is nothing to gain from "buffing" the surface after removing the haze - you don't increase the gloss by doing that you just continue to remove more and more product. You're actually removing what you should be leaving behind.

Anything above and beyond this, is an invitation to induce swirls. The same thing goes for washing the vehicle. There is no need to aggressively scrub the paint. Your goal is to remove the dirt/contaminants in the least aggressive manner.

This is just proper car care. Often... less is more.

[roushstage2]

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Thats why i wanna try deep crystal polish before applying tech wax 2.0. I have a claybar kit from mothers, claying really does wonders.. Any wax is easier to work with. I'm just curious as to how much difference deep crystal polish will make to the wax and its durability.. or is it purely cosmetic? i'll try it one day.

Roushstage2, have tried other brands of paint sealant/waxes? There seems to be alot of brands that claim they perform better than meguiars..

I have, and it's still pretty much all about the two things I listed. Prep is the key no matter where you live. This will ensure the maximum longevity you will be able to achieve with the environment the car is in. The environment is what will cause a wax to last longer or wear off quicker. For example, take a car kept in a garage/covered that is only driven here and another car that is driven in snow where the roads are "salted." It could be the same exact car and the same wax and so on. If you prepped both the same, applied and removed the wax the same and so on, the garaged car's wax will last a LOT longer than the other. The other car's wax is not going to last very long at all. Yes, those are extreme examples, but it gets the point across. Out here in the California summer sun, wax takes a beating too.

Optimum Spray Wax is "supposed" to last what, 6 months? I know detailers who use this product and they get a month out of it. I've heard others say they've gotten 8 months out of it. Longevity is all situational.

Wax is just the icing on the cake. It seals and preserves all of your prep work.

[ColonelCash]

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As mentioned above, prep and the environment have more to do with longevity than the wax itself.

Having said that, if you can get your paws on some Meguiars M16 or Collinite 476s, you should see a longer bead life. Those are considered "old school" waxes and can easily last 6 months in the Tennessee summers / winters (which range from 105 to 5 degrees, 90% humidity almost daily). They are both paste waxes and pretty cheap to try out ($15 USD)

[ffboy]

Re: NXT Wax 2.0 has short life

My opinion, based on my experiences with NXT 2.0 and M21 v2.0. I've been able to reproduce the short life issue, consistently. Here is what I found as the cause.

When removing the product, after the swipe test, if I rub the residue off with a lot of passion I wind up with a shorter life. I speculate that I am removing a lot of the protection while buffing the product off the car. Bearing in mind that the product has set but not yet cured, this makes sense to me. If I remove the residue with gentle buffing action and use only enough pressure and passes to remove the haze, all is fine. In the case of removing these products less wiping seems to lead to greater and longer lasting protection. Once the product has fully cured (>12hours) the product seems to be unaffected by additional buffing. Try it and let me know if your experience is the same.

With passion.. you mean rubbing the wax if and some instead of just wiping off the wax? What i do is a simple wipe (its easy anyway) then do a final wipe (ala mike phillips) with light pressure to somehow even out the layer left.. because sometimes i do get smearing, maybe i applied too much wax or the climate? i dunno.. but i find that when i do a finishing or final wipe, i tend to even out the layer.. i can see the smears be removed or get more "spread out" on the car.. i just hope i;m doing it right!

AGain thanks for the inputs.. So many waxes, i sometimes think that i am shortchanged by certain waxes, and that i should be buying the "exotic" waxes or the not so well known but supposedly "better" waxes in the market. I'm not bashing those other manufacturers, I'm saying that in my mind i may not be too curious enough to try them out to really get an idea of what i may or may not be missong out on in terms of protection..

[james3751]

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I guess I am late to the game as I just read your post about NXT 2.0. Everyone's experience is different, however I have tried many, many products and NXT 2.0 is the longest lasting one that I have tried. It's like liquid armor, it lasts and lasts for me. I am a rank amateur to be sure, but for me there is nothing like NXT 2.0. I guess it is true, perception is reality.

[ajb39oh]

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I've usually gotten better than average durability out of NXT 2.0. Collinite 845 is better but NXT 2.0 is no slouch for me.

[Larry A]

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detailed a friends car (daily driver, 32degree celcius sun, tropical rain etc etc) once with it.
3 months later the dad gave me an earful.
I believe his words were

"You waxed my car and it only lasted 2 months. You some kinda wise guy? I want it to last at least 6 months"

Very few waxes/sealants will last 6 months unless you use some kind of spray wax.