NXT2- no beading at all

[Larry A]

Last wednsday I waxed my car with NXT 2. The finish looked great, it hid a lot of scratches and swirls. I was very happy. Short of buffing out your car, NXT2 is the best results you can get. Sunday morning we had heavy rain storms.The car sits outside. This morning when we went out for breakfast , there was not one bead on the car , nothing. What do you guys think what happened? Was there something in the rain? Was there something in the trees that the rain washed out , although I was not parked directly under trees? Did something remove the NXT2 or did something coat the NXT2. There was some carnuba wax on the car before I waxed it with NXT2, did that cause a bonding issue? Any ideas are welcome.

[Murr1525]

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I am not sure Nxt is designed to be the best beaing wax.

[RamAirV1]

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If the water sheets off the car instead of beading, that's a good thing!

RamAirV1

[J. A. Michaels]

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Doesn't the nxt v2.0 have those hydrophobic properties in it. If so the water should sheet off. I would saythe wax did it's job.

[Bence]

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It might be too dirty/contaminated. Sometimes the soiling is soo tricky, that you are not able see it really yet it can hamper the beading. If the water just stays on the surface without forming beads, well, that's a good indication of a dead LSP. However, as the water evaporates and the clinging water layer gets thinner, you can observe as the polymers work, and the LSP is able to break up the water film. In this case there is some protection left in the LSP.

After a good wash the beading must be re-established (at least theoretically). But think about it: a bead, aka a perfect sphere in vacuum, is the most stable state of the water. Ergo, extreme beading stays on the car much longer - you might observed that fully unprotected cars dry a lot faster and without spotting.

[Jeepster04]

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NXTv2 usually beads like crazy unless my paint is dirty. Then it beads very little or sheets.

[Sydster]

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NXTv2 usually beads like crazy unless my paint is dirty. Then it beads very little or sheets.

[Mike Phillips]

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Interesting...

Not sure what's happening on the surface to cause a result like this but what would be interesting is spray some water onto the car after it's been washed and dried and see if sprayed water beads up? Sometimes how water lands on paint can affect how it beads although in most cases when it rains on a freshly waxed surface water does tend to bead up.

Will pass the link to this thread on to some others inside Meguiar's

[Larry A]

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Thanks Mike for looking into it. Since the car still looked good and didnt dry very dirty , this morning I sprayed it down with Poorboys Spray n Wipe and then followed with UQD. The car looks great , is very slick . Will see what happens the next rain.

[Don]

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Initially I thought the same thing...that 2.0 wasn't beading any better than the original did...but then the rain really started coming down for a couple of days on end, including this morning and today is when I noticed just how well it did bead up on the car, despite the definite layer of grime on the paint. It almost seems that the first few rains kind of glued the dirt to the car & it didn't bead very well, but then after a few days of rain cleaning off the streets & driving through the rain at highway speeds, it seemed like the paint started beading up again. Not like a perfectly clean surface, but much better than before and worlds better than NXT 1.0

[Daniel Kinder]

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I was one of the lucky few that got to try out the new nxt 2.0 before it came out.

I remember that the first 4 or 5 washes I did for the test the water just sheeted off like crazy, no beading until the 5th wash but still sheeted pretty good, it didn't bead like a regular carnauba wax until about the 8th wash for the test.

But do agree that nothing works as good as it should on a paints surface that's not properly preped.

Here's something I found on the nxt 2.0

NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 is a scientific breakthrough that introduces a new dimension of gloss and protection. Our new and improved formula produces unbelievably deep, vibrant color and a dramatically clear wet-look. Hydrophobic Polymer Technology™ provides relentless water beading and protection against oxidation, corrosion, UV rays and surface degradation. “Hydrophobic” means “water-fearing” and this new breakthrough technology builds such incredible protection and surface tension that water beads up and just glides off your paint finish, wash after wash!

[Larry A]

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Mike, did you find out anything about NXT 2 not beading after one rain storm ? There was another problem , the car I put it on was streaky when I pulled it in the sun, but by the next day it disapeared by itself . Yesterday I had a wedding job to do with the dark blue Rolls Royce, so on thursday I put on a coat of NXT 2 to make it stand out.I pick it up friday and pulled it out in the sun and it was full of streaks , in this case they didnt disapeared. All I had on me at the time was Wolfgang Spritz and that took all the streaks out. Now I shake the bottle well and I put it on 1 drop at a time with a Meguiars foam pad.Could there be something wrong with the bottle of NXT 2 ? I got it at Christmas time , could it been delivered to the store frozen, would that effect it? I like Nxt 2 for its deep gloss and its swirl hiding ability, but if it streakes bad and wont last but 1 rain I will have to try sonething else.

[Mike Phillips]

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Not sure what the problem could be that you're experiencing Larry but Meguiar's wants you to be satisfied with your purchase and if you're not then we'd like to refund you're purchase price.

Before that if you e-mail me your shipping address I'll have a new bottle of NXT 2.0 sent out next week. It's Memorial Day weekend so there's no way to process an order internally until Tuesday, but we can have it shipped out on Tuesday.

[Andy M.]

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Mike, did you find out anything about NXT 2 not beading after one rain storm ? There was another problem , the car I put it on was streaky when I pulled it in the sun, but by the next day it disapeared by itself . Yesterday I had a wedding job to do with the dark blue Rolls Royce, so on thursday I put on a coat of NXT 2 to make it stand out.I pick it up friday and pulled it out in the sun and it was full of streaks , in this case they didnt disapeared. All I had on me at the time was Wolfgang Spritz and that took all the streaks out. Now I shake the bottle well and I put it on 1 drop at a time with a Meguiars foam pad.Could there be something wrong with the bottle of NXT 2 ? I got it at Christmas time , could it been delivered to the store frozen, would that effect it? I like Nxt 2 for its deep gloss and its swirl hiding ability, but if it streakes bad and wont last but 1 rain I will have to try sonething else.

How long did you leave the wax to dry before removing? This could have created your streaking issue.

Andy
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[Don]

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How long did you leave the wax to dry before removing? This could have created your streaking issue.

Andy
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Too, in order to get the best results from any wax, it needs to be applied to a clean surface. You didn't mention if you used a paint cleaner before the NXT2 or just washed the car & put the NXT2 on right over top of the carnuaba wax. It could have (not saying it did) caused a bonding issue. Too, trees drip sap...all trees, some worse than others and the sap is semi-water soluable before it hardens. If your car is under a tree in the rain, odds are you have A LOT of sap coating the car (a coating of sap doesn't bead water either ).

...Since the car still looked good and didnt dry very dirty...

It might not have looked dirty, but I bet there was a light film of sap & other fallout from the trees & the rain.

I agree with what Mike said, give the car a regular wash...the rinse water should bead up nicely, if not - first I would suspect something interfered with the application and try it again from the beginning. Then if the problem continued, I would start to suspect the product.