Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

[john b]

I have always used gold class liquid wax for my cars (white) in the past. I now have a new black vehicle and decided to try the NXT liquid wax since it is new and I am out of the gold class. So far I'm not sure of it. The wax seems to want to streak and seems hard to remove. I did later try the NXT quik wax and it was easier to remove, but did leave some streaks. I'm sure that the NXT is better, but I'm tempted to try the Gold Class and see if I have the same results. I don't want to blame the product, because this may be due to my error in application/removal, and my expectations. Please help

[Murr1525]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Well, the very first thing of course is how much you are applying. It may have also been cold and damp in Texas recently, so that can also affect Nxt.

Make sure you are applying a very thin layer. Look at the thread below... it is for spray wax, but does show what a thin coat of wax basicaly looks like.

How to Get Great Results Using Meguiar's Spray Waxes

[john b]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

As far as the spray wax I will say that I might have not used enough according to the pictures. Now, as far as the NXT liquid wax, I may have used too much. Is the Gold Class more forgiving than the NXT in this situation?

[Murr1525]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Maybe... haven't really directly compared.

[CharlesW]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Your "New" car may be the problem.
It's very possible that the dealer prep included some type of glaze to make it look good on delivery.
The NXT may not be compatible with that glaze.

Many years ago, I tried the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze and man what a look. I was so excited, I could hardly wait to get a coat of wax over it to keep it looking like that. I ended up with a streaky mess and it took a couple of washes to get back to where I could use wax without the streaks. I don't remember, but the wax was probably either Meg's #6 or Medallion. While many product lines mix & match fine, it doesn't always work that way.
One good or bad thing, depending on your point of view, glazes don't stay on through very many washes.
Chances are the glaze will be gone in a week and your wax will work fine.

[john b]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Since I have already waxed the vehicle then should I "strip" the wax and/or possible glaze and start over?

[mh68]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Many have had the same problem with NXT liquid without the proper surface prep and curing time and conditions. I've found that I don't have the streaking problem with NXT paste. It seems to cure better and is much more forgiving as far as surface prep.

Mike

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Since I have already waxed the vehicle then should I "strip" the wax and/or possible glaze and start over?

That would be the fool-proof way to go, to do this, get either a tube of ScratchX or a bottle of Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner and go over all the paint on you car with either of these thoroughly applying and working the product against the paint. This will effectively remove any wax and also clean the paint and prepare it to accept a wax.

After that, apply the NXT using an ample amount of wax, not too much, not too little, you want to use enough wax to lubricate the surface as you apply the wax and work it into the paint but only leaving a thin layer on the surface.

The allow this coating to dry until it swipes clear and the remove it with a clean, soft microfiber polishing cloth.

If you feel your paint was/is in pretty good shape to start with, (only you would know), then you could simple re-apply a coat of NXT Tech Wax following the above directions and the inspect the results.

You could also do this on just the hood and deck lid and inspect these results, if it looks good then repeat over the entire car, if you're still having problems, then try the paint cleaner first to the hood and then wax and inspect.

The idea being to dial in a process that works in a small area first and the duplicate this over the entire car.

Make sense?

p.s.

Does the car need to be clayed? Have you felt the paint after washing to see if you can feel any little bumps on the paint? If so you need to clay before anything else.

[john b]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Thank you for your advice. Also want to mention that I have very, very light swirl marks in the paint. I did find the post about removing swirl marks. I ordered the G100 and the listed recommendations to remove the swirls. I will try this and then let you know. I don't feel any roughness or bumps in the paint. The car is almost a month old and is garage kept. Any other help will be greatly appreciated.

[Murr1525]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

No sense removing swirls by hand if you have a G-100 on the way... though you ma ystill want some ScratchX around for where it cant reach. Have you seen these links?

Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

What it Means to Remove a Scratch

How To Remove Swirls By Hand

How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX

Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

[john b]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Do I need to use the scratch x or the deep crystal paint cleaner first if I'm going to use the g100 to remove the swirls?

[john b]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

If I am going to use the g100 and the meguiar's prescription to remove swirls, do I need to use a polish also at some point?

[Murr1525]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

With the G-100, you could just use #80 (or #83 for bad swirls) for most of the car, and then ScratchX for where the PC cant reach.

ScratchX and DC#1 are cleaners only. That is they do not conatin very much in the way of polishing oils, if any. So you would want to follow them up with a polish, like DC#2, or #7, etc.

#80 and #83 are cleaner/polishes, so they do contain a good amount of polishing oils. Using a pure polish after would be optional.

[john b]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Thanks for your input. Should I use a polish or not? What will the polish do for me? I don't mind using a polish, is it necessary? Or is using the #80 or #83, then the NXT wax just as good?

[CharlesW]

Re: Using NXT wax for the first time, not for sure about it

Thanks for your input. Should I use a polish or not? What will the polish do for me? I don't mind using a polish, is it necessary? Or is using the #80 or #83, then the NXT wax just as good?

There are so many variables that your question is not easy to answer.
It depends not only on the condition of the paint, but on what is "good" in your mind.
FWIW, I have used #80 with a polishing pad, (W-8006), followed by NXT Tech Wax, (liquid), applied with a finishing pad, (W-9006), removed by hand with a MF towel on a Black Saturn Vue with excellent results.
#80 by polishing pad and followed by a LSP, (not NXT), has worked great on a Silver Honda CR-V, a Silver Chevrolet Trailblazer, a Red Pontiac GTP, a White Pontiac Montana, a Gold Honda CR-V.........
In other words, the #80 was all I felt was needed for the paint prep on those vehicles. Someone else may have an entirely different opinion.