NXT vs. #20

[rshan]

I have heard good things about NXT and #20 Polymer Sealant. Just wondering what the pros and cons are of both.

I just got an '04 Silver Mazda3 (only 1 week old).

Since the car is so new, do you think I need to Clay bar it, or can I just Dawn and NXT/#20 ?

Thanks,
Ray

[Mike Phillips]

Re: NXT vs. #20

Originally posted by rshan
I have heard good things about NXT and #20 Polymer Sealant. Just wondering what the pros and cons are of both.

I just got an '04 Silver Mazda3 (only 1 week old).

Since the car is so new, do you think I need to Clay bar it, or can I just Dawn and NXT/#20 ?

Thanks,
Ray

Hi rshan,

Welcome to Meguiar’s Online!

There is no static answer to whether or not you should clay your car because every situation will be different. What Meguiar’s teaches is to, Evaluate the Surface, this will tell you if your car's finish needs to be clayed.

Check out this thread which will tell you how to check to see if you need to clay your car and if you do, how to do it.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...=&threadid=891

As far as #20 and Tech Wax go, they are both excellent products. The only way to find out which one you will like better on our car's finish, (and in your eyes), is to try them both!

Also, you don’t need to wash your car with Dawn to get it clean, in fact, high pH, strong detergent soaps like Dawn will have a dulling-effect and drying-out effect on your car’s paint and other external components made from rubber, plastic and vinyl.

Mike

[rshan]

Thanks Mike ! I bought some NXT yesterday, so I'll probably try that first. I will try the clay bar test before doing too much work. Good advise.

Thanks,
Ray

[RamAirV1]

There is at least a 50% chance you will need to clay your new car. If your car was shipped by rail at all you will probably have rail dust on it and clay is the only thing that will remove it. Don't try to buff rail dust off with a cleaner polish, you will have to remove too much paint in order to get the rail dust off.

As far as NXT v. #20 goes you will probably find that NXT delivers a wetter deeper shine. It is easy to apply and reomve. What we don't know yet is if NXT is aas durable as #20 or not. I am in the prcess of comparing NXT vs. MPPP which was suppsed to be Meguiars most durable sealant before NXT. So far the NXT does deliver a wetter, deeper shine than MPPP on my Impulse Blue GTO. It also does a better job of filling minor swirl marks too. Not a night and day difference, but still noticeable. MPPP does show some anti-static properties as it does not attract as much dust as NXT Tech Wax. This is not to say that NXT is a dust magnet. NXT is probably average on dust attraction and MPPP is better than average on dust attraction.

It will be interesting to see what happens as far as dust attraction after Final Detail is applied. Does the MPPP still attract less dust? I'll have to wait and see. I will also compare the NXT and MPPP after washing with the NXT wash and BEFORE using Final Detail, because the NXT car wash does have some anti-static properties.

RamAirV1

[mirrorfinishman]

Re: NXT vs. #20

Originally posted by rshan
I have heard good things about NXT and #20 Polymer Sealant. Just wondering what the pros and cons are of both.

I just got an '04 Silver Mazda3 (only 1 week old).

Ray,

Since the #20 Polymer Sealant has a bit more cleaning action when compared to the new NXT High Tech Wax, you could use the #20 and then finish up with a top coat of NXT.

I have recently started using #20 and NXT on a select number of customer vehicles, especially the light colored silver vehicles that are detailed often. The results are truely amazing and my customers certainly appreciate the additional protection.

ps. I used to offer #20 topped with #26. Now it's #20 topped with NXT.

[DevilDog]

Mirrorfinishman,

Thanks for that peice of advice. I was thinking of topping #20 or MPPP with NXT but couldnt find anyone who has used it.

Did you notice any darkening after the #20 or did the NXT just give the #20 a carnuba look?

NXT remove any of the #20?

[Mosca]

Topped #20 or MPPP with NXT? Yup, done both.

NXT contains slight cleaners, but they are enough to bring up pigment on single stage paints, through whatever else is there; #20, #26, #16, MPPP, Gold Class, Klasse, Turtle Wax Platinum, whatever you have. I've tried it over all of those.

NXT has a look that is fairly unique among Meguiar's products; it has much of the reflectivity of #20, and most of the wetness of #26, and a lot of the darkening of Gold Class. It doesn't benefit appearancewise from being put over #20, or MPPP. It kind of looks like MPPP on steroids, actually. I think that it might be a bit darker when applied over Gold Class.


Tom

[DevilDog]

MOSCA,

You think that Glod Class then NXT would darken the paint the most?

What about gold class and #20? or MPPP?

[Mosca]

Gold Class, #20, and MPPP all have cleaners, and fall into the "removes what is underneath" category. There's nothing wrong with putting one over another, but the appearances won't reinfore each other; #20 will remove GCC, GC will remove #20. NXT also has cleaners, but less so than the other products. My impression of NXT over GC was that it held some of the GC darkening (Meg's claims GC is their darkest wax). But, just because I think I saw that doesn't make it so.

I've been doing this layering thing for a while now and, except for in a few cases, your car is going to look like whatever it was you last used. Generally speaking, the hot ticket from the green 'n black forum (Meg's) is 7/20/26 if you're single-stage, or 81/20/26 if you're clearcoat. Everything else looks like whatever you last applied.


Tom