Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

[jayno20]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

Sometimes it comes down more to what product works best on what paint. I recently had the opportunity to play with a wide variety of competitors products on a fellow employees metallic yellow 350Z (admittedly the paint on her car could be quite different from the paint on jayno's 370Z even though both are Nissan Z cars - they are different model years, after all), most of which cost at least double what UC costs. None of them cut any faster than UC, and none left any better finish (although one of them did haze the paint quite badly while quickly removing all the swirls). But all of them created more dust than UC did - some just a tiny bit, some pretty significant.

What's critically important, regardless of the product used, is how you're using it. Technique is everything in this game, so no matter how good that product in the bottle is, if your technique is poor you can only expect the product to save you up to a point. Now don't get us wrong, jayno, we aren't saying your technique is to blame here, we're just making a point. But that interaction between product and paint is huge, and sometimes certain things just don't play well together. We've seen cases where, when working on multiple cars in a single day in the same room, one product/pad combo was just stellar on Car A and totally unusable on Car B. Crazy, but it happens, and more often than you might think.

I have done my fair share of buffing in my day. The products I originally bought (listed in first post) were purchased for my Chrysler Sebring at the time. They worked BEAUTIFULLY on that car. I do have the knowledge of how to repair paint using the tools I have, this particular compound just doesn't seem to get it done as well as it did on previous cars.

[CreamPuff]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

Post some before and after pics if you get a chance jayno

[jayno20]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

Finally got a chance to work with this stuff yesterday, let me just say I'll never doubt Meguiars consumer line again!


Here is a before shot:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a264/JAYNO20/b30de603.jpg

and an after shot:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a264/JAYNO20/70383521.jpg

That was before the Ultimate Polish/wax was put on. This stuff works really well and I am thinking about going with an equally good Meguiars liquid wax... any recommendations on that?

[Scott's 62]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

I am thinking about going with an equally good Meguiars liquid wax... any recommendations on that?[/QUOTE]

Ultimate paste Wax is by far my favorite, It should look real nice on red. A Carnauba wax would good as well.

[jayno20]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

I was looking at the ultimate wax but was leaning more towards liquid so I could apply with my Porter cable.

[CreamPuff]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

I was looking at the ultimate wax but was leaning more towards liquid so I could apply with my Porter cable.

Get a 4 inch backing plate, 4 inch finishing pad...ultimate paste wax...you'll never go back to using liquid wax.

Finally got a chance to work with this stuff yesterday, let me just say I'll never doubt Meguiars consumer line again!

That was before the Ultimate Polish/wax was put on. This stuff works really well and I am thinking about going with an equally good Meguiars liquid wax... any recommendations on that?

So why did you doubt it before? Not bad for a $10.00 product huh? I vote Ultimate Paste Wax as well...

[Nuscence813]

Why use the 4 inch pad? What is the significance behind that? Won't using the 6 inch be equally the same besides the point you will cover more area? I usually can cover a greater area with a 6 inch with UW and it also comes in liquid!! I would try the M7 before the wax on a black pad at #4 setting moving fairly quick arm speed and wiping off. It gives it more oils to the coat and appears pretty and wet!! I like the M7 and usually finish with UW ( 2 thin coats) brilliant!!!!

[davey g-force]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

Finally got a chance to work with this stuff yesterday, let me just say I'll never doubt Meguiars consumer line again!


Here is a before shot:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a264/JAYNO20/b30de603.jpg

and an after shot:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a264/JAYNO20/70383521.jpg

That was before the Ultimate Polish/wax was put on. This stuff works really well and I am thinking about going with an equally good Meguiars liquid wax... any recommendations on that?

Great news! So the Meguiars consumer products performed better than the "professional" products you were using earlier.

Why use the 4 inch pad? What is the significance behind that?

I think he's saying that it's convenient with 4 inch pads if you want to use a paste wax. i.e. you can fit the pad inside the tin to get wax onto the pad.

[CreamPuff]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

i think he's saying that it's convenient with 4 inch pads if you want to use a paste wax. I.e. You can fit the pad inside the tin to get wax onto the pad.

bingo!

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

I do have the knowledge of how to repair paint using the tools I have, this particular compound just doesn't seem to get it done as well as it did on previous cars.

This statement and the before/after pix you posted showing the results of changing products for this new car just serve to support our earlier comments. We've seen cases where a product, any product, has worked spectacularly on any number of cars and then we try it on that one vehicle where it's just a complete and utter failure. It can be frustrating when it happens, but it just drives home the reason for us making so many different products that all seem to do basically the same thing. Some products and some paints just don't play together all that well.

It sure sounds like you've hit onto a process that works great on the Z, and that's great news!

[jayno20]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

Interesting, so a 4" pad fits in the ultimate wax paste jar?

[Murr1525]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

Well, any jar over 4"....

[morphiusrt]

This might sound a little crazy but I had very good luck on a black 350z with a combination of products on the same pad.

I took D300 + mf cutting pad primed it then added a few pea sized drops of M105. And every panel or so I would do half d300 half m105.

Benefit= great cutting ability, much easier to work with and finished off great!!!

It was raining that day so I couldn't get it out in the sun light but I was at car show and this car was there it looked spectacular. The black was so deep and swirl free. This is a jet black as opposed to a metallic.

Like was stated before every combo doesn't work for everyone but this one worked very well for me.

[jayno20]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

OK, so I finally got around to detailing the car.. Everything turned out really nicely except for the bottoms of my doors... I have some holograms showing up only towards the bottom of the doors and no where else... Any idea what caused this? I used UC all over the car followed by UP and then ULW.

What would cause the holograms?

[davey g-force]

Re: Bad swirls on a '10 370z.

I didn't think it was possible to cause holograms using a DA. Are you sure they weren't already there?