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**Car Potential** · May 17, 2012, 11:36 PM

Re: Let's Talk -- Show Car Glaze #7

M07 is a pure polish so it has no abrasives that clean the paint, unlike UP. I think M07 may be able to fill in some minor swirls temporarily but not remove them. It was originally made for single stage paint to add oils and nourish the paint and help with the oxidation. I use it on my black tahoe which has a clear coat and the vehicle looks show room ready when I top it off with M26. It is one of my favorite products.

**CreamPuff** · May 18, 2012, 12:37 AM

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Exactly...so since it's a pure polish and has no abrasives, i wonder how it cleans the paint?

**Murr1525** · May 18, 2012, 06:05 AM

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If you put some water on your finger, and rub it across the paint, dirt will come off. Its just the act of rubbing a liquid across the surface with a pad that is doing some cleaning, as far as dirt removal.

**CreamPuff** · May 18, 2012, 07:24 AM

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Understood...but the thing is, you do it with water and the contaminates on the car don't come off...quick detail and microfiber wipe down...same thing. but #7 cleans it up nicely...i used Ultimate Compound on it and it does clean the paint, but its suppose to...

**Michael Stoops** · May 18, 2012, 09:47 AM

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M07 has zero abrasives so in and of itself it's not going to "clean" the paint. But it is very oil rich, and when used with a microfiber applicator or towel those oils will get down into the pores of the paint and can sort of grab onto embedded dirt particles, and the microfiber will then pull everything up. This wasn't really the design intent of M07 but it will work that way. Just don't expect any sort of major correction with it since any true abrasive action you might get will really come from the applicator you're using.

On a modern clear coat you'll really be challenged to see a huge difference in appearance when using a pure polish like M07, but the darker the color the more likely you are to see at least some difference. Tommy, going by the color of your IS-F it's not a huge surprise that you didn't see much of a difference. My Crossfire is a bit lighter blue than your IS-F and I don't see much of a difference if I use a pure polish on it, either. My PT is a dark gray metallic and I can see some definite darkening of that color when I use M07 on it, but it's not a transformation.

A few months ago I helped Joseph Kearns detail his '93 BMW 3 Series, also single stage white, and he wanted to try his new bottle of M07 on it after we did the defect removal process. To my surprise the gloss level really jumped on that car following an application of M07. I wasn't expecting such a big difference simply because of the white paint, but it was pretty remarkable.

Getting back to your IS-F; M205 applied with a foam finishing pad on a rotary at no more 1000 rpm would do the most to really bring out the gloss and clarity of that paint. You've taken the Advanced Class, you can handle this. Such low speeds with a finishing pad and M205 is extremely mild and the odds of doing any damage are slim to none. We can play with that at the next TNOG if you'd like. (and, yes, I know you sent me a PM - I just haven't had a chance to get to it quite yet, but I will later today!!)

**CreamPuff** · May 18, 2012, 04:40 PM

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Thanks for the feedback Mike.

To my surprise as well, the M07 really brought out the white on the BMW...I'm going to leave my BMW alone for now and bring it to the TNOG next time...

If I knew what I learned during the past few TNOG, I wouldn't have bought the M07 back then to use on my IS F because of the intend of M07...but since I had it laying around, I tried it on the BMW and it was fantastic.

Rotary....hmmm...another detailing toy to buy...I've spent like $150 since the advanced class...LOL. Gonna need therapy soon.

I don't think i can make it to the TNOG next week...CEO, Sales Director, and Marketing Director at my company are all going to be in town and they're leaving Friday so I'll probably end up having dinner with them on Thursday night. Damn...poor timing...I rather be with the TNOG...LOL...jk. It's nice to have them here since I'm the lone wolf working out here in California

**SVT Lightning** · May 18, 2012, 07:58 PM

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I've used #7 on my truck. It's a '99 with CC. I can see a difference every time have I used it...awesome polish.

**LS1BERLINA** · May 18, 2012, 10:20 PM

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So I use UP once every six months to lightly clean the paint and remove extremely minor marring. Its a great product but its coming up to six months and i cant see any swirls.

So your saying that #7 will do the 'cleansing' thing and remove dirt build-up from the paint, but not remove swirls?

Even though im inclined to stick with UP, i might have to give #7 a go for this job, especially as its the least aggressive method to get the job done.

**ffboy** · May 19, 2012, 05:32 AM

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UP can remove minor swirls and add that polished gloss. If by cleanse you mean moisturize the paint to make it more workable (allow the compounds to be spread or worked into the paint) rather than the compound just be absorbed into the paint making working in areas more difficult due to paint's dryness and age. The oils in M07 will fill in the paint's surface, like sacrificing it's oils so that the oils in M07 will be absorbed instead of the ones found in the compounds used for correction.

**CreamPuff** · May 19, 2012, 06:51 AM

Re: Let's Talk -- Show Car Glaze #7

Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post

On a modern clear coat you'll really be challenged to see a huge difference in appearance when using a pure polish like M07, but the darker the color the more likely you are to see at least some difference. Tommy, going by the color of your IS-F it's not a huge surprise that you didn't see much of a difference. My Crossfire is a bit lighter blue than your IS-F and I don't see much of a difference if I use a pure polish on it, either. My PT is a dark gray metallic and I can see some definite darkening of that color when I use M07 on it, but it's not a transformation.

See Michael's comment on #7

Originally posted by LS1BERLINA View Post

So I use UP once every six months to lightly clean the paint and remove extremely minor marring. Its a great product but its coming up to six months and i cant see any swirls.

So your saying that #7 will do the 'cleansing' thing and remove dirt build-up from the paint, but not remove swirls?

Even though im inclined to stick with UP, i might have to give #7 a go for this job, especially as its the least aggressive method to get the job done.

#7 is suppose to work better on older cars that have single stage paint. If you're car is a newer model with base coat / clear coat, you'll want to probably stick with Ultimate Polish

**BillyJack** · May 19, 2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by LS1BERLINA View Post

So your saying that #7 will do the 'cleansing' thing and remove dirt build-up from the paint, but not remove swirls?

My garage queen see avatar) is OEM 25 year-old single-stage lacquer. If I was limited to only one product to maintain it, there's no doubt it would be #7. There's definitely some cleaning action that takes place in use, but that may not hold true for the newer and tougher clearcoats. In my case, it does remove very minor imperfections as well as polish the metallic flakes when I apply it aggressively using a folded MF towel.

Bill

**RPPM** · May 19, 2012, 08:39 AM

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I was wondering when you were going to chime in Bill. I want to see that Garage Queen!! Bet it's a beauty...

**CreamPuff** · May 19, 2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by BillyJack View Post

My garage queen see avatar) is OEM 25 year-old single-stage lacquer. If I was limited to only one product to maintain it, there's no doubt it would be #7. There's definitely some cleaning action that takes place in use, but that may not hold true for the newer and tougher clearcoats. In my case, it does remove very minor imperfections as well as polish the metallic flakes when I apply it aggressively using a folded MF towel.

Bill

Bill....Pics of your car or ban.... now. =)

**BillyJack** · May 20, 2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by RPPM View Post

I was wondering when you were going to chime in Bill. I want to see that Garage Queen!! Bet it's a beauty...

Originally posted by CreamPuff View Post

Bill....Pics of your car or ban.... now. =)

Actually, it's not all that great by MOL standards. But it is a "survivor", since there's been no paint work for as long as I've had it-19 years. Anyone old enough to remember when single-stage lacquer was the OEM standard knows that the average life expectancy of factory paint was about 6-7 years, so I've been on borrowed time since the last century. It has about every paint defect known to man:checking, crazing, chipping, fading-but no swirls! I've been using Meguiar's products since the early 70's, but didn't truly know how to care for my paint until a few years ago when I discovered this forum. In 2009 it had to serve as a daily driver and I thought the 24/7 exposure to the elements had deteriorated the finish to the point of no return. Thanks to all the valuable information I found here, with a very special thanks to Mike Phillips, whose article on SS paint restoration using M07 has been my "bible", it's back to where I'm not ashamed to drive it.

Shine on, MOL brethren!

Bill

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