M205 vs. SwirlX

[Detale]

Lets take a G110v2, polishing pad, one with M205 and the other with SwirlX. Considering both are being used by the same operator, same paint, same speed, basically the exact same conditions. I've heard some say SwirlX has more cut, and others say M205 would have more cut. Can anyone verify which is TRUE???

[Michael Stoops]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

You're really splitting hairs here when it comes to cut as the two are very close. How they go about that cut is a bit different, which could have an impact when dealing with different vehicles rather than comparing them on the same vehicle. In a case where M205 is the better fit for a given paint, a user might then state that it has more cut than SwirlX. But on a different car the result may be the opposite, which could lead a user to state that SwirlX has more cut. M205 overall is likely to give a better finish, though, in most cases.

M205 is also rated for use on the rotary buffer, SwirlX is not. M205 is also body shop safe, SwirlX is not. But M205 is also much more expensive than SwirlX.

Does that help you or confuse you even more?!

[Detale]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

You're really splitting hairs here when it comes to cut as the two are very close. How they go about that cut is a bit different, which could have an impact when dealing with different vehicles rather than comparing them on the same vehicle. In a case where M205 is the better fit for a given paint, a user might then state that it has more cut than SwirlX. But on a different car the result may be the opposite, which could lead a user to state that SwirlX has more cut. M205 overall is likely to give a better finish, though, in most cases.

M205 is also rated for use on the rotary buffer, SwirlX is not. M205 is also body shop safe, SwirlX is not. But M205 is also much more expensive than SwirlX.

Does that help you or confuse you even more?!

LOL! I always look forward to your answers, Michael! If the cut is fairly close anyway you look at it, the fact that in "most cases", M205 will finish better is what I was looking for.

You do an excellent job explaining, Michael.

[EPHIOS]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

Since they are similar on terms of cutting ability, so it will do no good to use SwirlX, then follow it up with M205. I been wanting to know this, because I always thought that SwirlX is more aggressive than M205. I wanted to use the least aggressive product to remove light swirls on my black paint.

Maybe, I should first use M205 with the yellow polishing pad, then follow it us with M205 (again) with the black finishing pad. What do you guys think?

[Murr1525]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

There would be very few cars where following up one with the other would matter. Sounds like you just want #205.

Different pads, maybe... or just try the #205 from the start with the finishing pad.

Also applying a pure polish will by machine will do a little cleaning.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

If you really want just very light cleaning ability why not try something like ColorX? In cases of very delicate paint sometimes it's really all that's needed, as evidenced by our article on The Challenge of Delicate Paint.

And in cases where a more aggressive product that is needed to correct defects ends up leaving a bit of a haze to the finish, ColorX can do an outstanding job of clearing up the haze and adding your wax protection in a single follow up. We used this exact process at Barrett-Jackson last week when we found ourselves challenged with cleaning up a '57 Fuel Injected Corvette Roadster prior to sale. Without a rotary on hand (we had no intention of doing this sort of thing while there!) we put UC to very aggressive use to clean up this black paint. Although it did an admiral job at removing heavy swirls, it left the paint a bit dull and flat looking. A quick follow up with ColorX transformed the finish, leaving it looking inky black and highly reflective. Don't underestimate the power of ColorX!!

[greg0303]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

Lets take a G110v2, polishing pad, one with M205 and the other with SwirlX. Considering both are being used by the same operator, same paint, same speed, basically the exact same conditions. I've heard some say SwirlX has more cut, and others say M205 would have more cut. Can anyone verify which is TRUE???

M205 - Finishing Polish,
SwirlX - Cleaner/ Polish.
Depends what your needs are. As Mike said, sometimes even ColorX can bring back paint to life. Do some tests on small area.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40514&highlight=aggressiveness

[daniel clark]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

So between M205 and swirl free polish 82 which of the two is least aggressive?

[Murr1525]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

Thats a tough one, since you are dealing with whole different systems...

#205 can probably remove more defects, and leave a nicer finish.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: M205 vs. SwirlX

So between M205 and swirl free polish 82 which of the two is least aggressive?

M205 rates a 4 on our scale, M82 just a 3. That's close enough that your choice of pad and tool speed can give one the nod over the other though. But with everything else being equal, M205 offers just a bit more cut. But M205 uses SMAT abrasives while M82 uses DAT, and while both are loaded with polishing oils the abrasives in M205 may well yield a higher level of clarity to the finish. This may be especially true when dealing with metallic clear coat finishes, but at the end of the day beauty is in the eye of the beholder.