M205 problem

[Slicked]

Hi guys,

I was using M205 for the first time tonight. The problem is that it was bonding to the paint. The oils would separate, leaving sticky residue on the paint.

I used a finishing pad at 1,100 rpm. I used a small amount. I was aiming to work it for a couple of minutes but maybe managed no more than 50 seconds.

Any ideas how i can prevent this happening?

[Markus Kleis]

Re: M205 problem

I've never experienced anything like this with M205.

Was it extremely hot or humid?

Were you working in direct sun?

How large of any area were you working?


Either way, try shortening the work time to somewhere in the realm of 30 seconds - which is still plenty of time for the polish do its job. Let us know how that works.

[Slicked]

Re: M205 problem

I was working indoors on an average night. Work areas were 2 x 2 foot maximum.

The problem may be isolated to the particular car I was working on. Another cleaner/polish worked fine, but that same alternative has failed on me on other occasions. I'll just have to see how it goes as I make my way through my 32oz bottle.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: M205 problem

Well, with detailing there are always oddities and exceptions - this might be one of them. I personally haven't experienced anything that would allow me to help you here, and it sounds like you are doing it about right.

I would suggest maybe trying a little less product and a slightly smaller work area - along with 30 seconds work time.

See if that helps.

[Scoobie]

Re: M205 problem


As was already mentioned, work a smaller area. The temps in Melbourne are in the low 60's to low 70's, which is close to ideal, so I would count that out as the problem.

What I have done in the past, is spray the area in which product is drying prematurely (or preferably the pad) with some water, or instant detailer. This would allow me to work a compound/polish longer without the product drying up.

[Scottwax]

Re: M205 problem

I've had that happen on occasion on softer paints when working in the sun. No issues on harder paints at all.

[Keefe]

Re: M205 problem

Hi guys,

I was using M205 for the first time tonight. The problem is that it was bonding to the paint. The oils would separate, leaving sticky residue on the paint.

I used a finishing pad at 1,100 rpm. I used a small amount. I was aiming to work it for a couple of minutes but maybe managed no more than 50 seconds.

Any ideas how i can prevent this happening?

Delicate paint? Use lowest speed setting. Lift the weight of machine as you polish. This should jewel nicely. Use lesser compound and brush off excess 205 on the pad along the way. Clean pads is the way to go. A used toothbrush will do the trick nicely. You will see dust coming off the pad. Not a lot but good and effective.

[gmck]

Re: M205 problem

Hi Slicked,

I was also using M205 late this afternoon in Melbourne and had no problems, so I doubt it is anything to do with temperature or humidity. Was using a DA though, not a rotary. What you are describing is more like M105. I tend to get that effect with some paints with M105. Have you tried IPA to get rid of the residue?

[EssieK]

Re: M205 problem

This is typical behavior of any polish / compound being used on soft and sticky paint with a "default" technique. A different technique (like the one described by Keefe) might be the way to go. I did a blue 2000 Suzuki Baleno a week back with the stickiest paint in history. A simple 1-step turned into a full blown "try X techniques with Y combinations of product and pad" before the paint was corrected nicely along with a non-holo / non-marred surface. Took me four hours just on the bonnet before I "cracked the code" on this particular car.