M205 cutting ability

[mako20C]

Guys,
I have tried to read up on 205 as much as I can. Im still a bit confused on its ability. I understand it is a finishing polish I do not need someone to show the label. I know it is different than M80 in technology. My question is "all things equal" can it be used as my first step on my test area.

Say that my 205 on a yellow polishing pad did not remove my swirls. I have been seeing 105 being paired up with it. To be honest the red arrow all the way at the top of the scale is scary. Would I then want to try 105 on my test area?

This would be done with a PC.

My experience has only been with M80 and 83, but I would like to get to use some of these products.

Thanks for your input.

[05ram25004x4]

Re: M205 cutting ability

I know what you mean, I tried 205 on a yellow 2.0 pad with my Flex DA, and it literally did nothing to the swirls on my 2005 Dodge Ram. I then moved up to UC, which is an awesome product and did great, but there were still traces of swirls. 105 took everything out, and left the finish looking incredible. By all means use 205 first, because it worked flawlessly on my 2007 Pontiac Grand Prix. It's all in the vehicle you're working on, but definately use it on your test area first.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: M205 cutting ability

You certainly can use M205 as a first step, but depending on the level of defect and the hardness of the paint, it may not do much. Remember, it was designed to be a finishing polish for use with a rotary buffer - that was it's primary design intent. Nonetheless, people have gotten great results with it on a D/A.

But if M205 doesn't get rid of your below surface defects, we highly recommend going to Ultimate Compound next rather than jumping straight to M105. UC is based on M105, is quite potent, but has a much longer buffing cycle on a D/A (less dusting). Just take your time with it, and experiment a bit with pressure/speed as some paints respond better to different pressure, etc.

[mako20C]

Re: M205 cutting ability

sounds great since UC is OTC its is sold over town. My shipment will be here this week so Ill will give it a go this weekend.
Michael or forum should I go to swirl x at all?

[mako20C]

Re: M205 cutting ability

If I use the UC will you need a polish after it, If the paint is wax ready i.e all defects removed, does UC have polish oil in it like M80 to correct and polish at the same time, or should you go back and apply a pure polish then wax/sealant.
thanks

[fredcandetail]

Re: M205 cutting ability

im sure UC has "some" polishing oils built into the formula ... nonetheless i would still "top it" with 21 or 26 just becuase im car crazy like that

Have fun!

[mako20C]

Re: M205 cutting ability

i will definitely be applying wax(sealant)

[mako20C]

Re: M205 cutting ability

well, I received my order of M205/m21 and new pads
I used m205 on a yellow polishing pad on speed 5 using moderate to very firm pressure for about 2-3 passes then lightened up to the weight of the DA.

It removed 90% of the swirls.

I then applied the same technique with Ultimate compound and it removed 98% of the swirls which was good enough since it is my wife daily driver and it is WHITE so the work may not be worth it to me on this vehicle. Considering it it a full size SUV. Dont get me wrong it looks great for white.

I then applied a coat of M21 which had an awesome purple color!. I applied it on as thin as I could. Let it dry four an hour and it wiped off very easily. Better than my experience with NXT. The following morning I finished waxing the roof and putting on a second coat on the hood and front bumper getting ready for love bug season.

I will try to use the M205 on my black truck which was perfect about two years ago but is now picking a few swirls. So I am going to fresh it up a bit for summer.

Thanks to Meguiars for making car care simple and fun, which your products and instructions do. When you get advertised results its no wonder people come back to you!
Keep up the great work.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: M205 cutting ability

well, I received my order of M205/m21 and new pads
I used m205 on a yellow polishing pad on speed 5 using moderate to very firm pressure for about 2-3 passes then lightened up to the weight of the DA.

It removed 90% of the swirls.

I then applied the same technique with Ultimate compound and it removed 98% of the swirls which was good enough since it is my wife daily driver and it is WHITE so the work may not be worth it to me on this vehicle. Considering it it a full size SUV. Dont get me wrong it looks great for white.

This is where test spots are so handy, and potential time savers. If a single application of UC remvoed 98% of the swirls, odds are a second application will remove the balance. Still, on a daily driver, do you really want to stress over every last little defect that only you can see?

I will try to use the M205 on my black truck which was perfect about two years ago but is now picking a few swirls. So I am going to fresh it up a bit for summer.

Keep in mind that the paint on your truck is going to be different than the paint on your wife's SUV. It may be harder, which means you won't see much from the M205, or it could be softer and M205 will be all you need for a near flawless finish. Just do a test spot first and see where M205 gets you and then, if needed, do a test with UC right next to it. Now, on a black vehicle you may find that one application of UC followed by an application of M205 gives you outstanding results, maybe even better than you expected.

Thanks to Meguiars for making car care simple and fun, which your products and instructions do. When you get advertised results its no wonder people come back to you!
Keep up the great work.

Thanks for that, we really appreciate this sort of feedback!!