#83 DACP -- frequency of usage

[Slats]

Hey guys,

After buying the PC and using it with DACP I was very impressed with the results. #83 really added a lot of clarity to my light gold Accord. Since this product is a cleaner and polish in one (saving me the time of applying DC#1 and 2), can I use it everytime I wax? I realize this product contains some abrasives, but it still seems to be rather mild, so is it ok to use every couple months before applying wax?

Thanks,
Slats

[Marc08EX]

Totally, this has already been said by Mike Pennington... You can use DACP whenever you want without burning through the clearcoat... Maybe once every 4 months? Related Thread Check out the last post on page 1 by Mike Pennington.

Is your Accord heather mist?

[Mike Phillips]

Hi Slats,

Here's what Mike wrote,

Originally posted by Mike Pennington
Let me jump in here also...

DACP and a PC will not remove .3 mil with one pass not even close...

Just to give you an idea, we can take our Finishing Papers, wool pad, and Diamond Cut 2.0 and remove less than .5 mil.

With that said, you can use DACP over and over and over with a PC with no problems of removing too much material and causing any type of paint failure.

I hope this clears things up

Mike

The thing to remember is if you are taking good care of your finish, then hopefully you shouldn't have to use a cleaner/polish that often.

Mike

[Slats]

Thanks guys! I love #83, so that is great news.

Slats

P.S. Yeah, I think it is heather mist. ??? My next accord when I buy a new one will be either silver or eternal blue.

[Marc08EX]

Originally posted by Slats
Thanks guys! I love #83, so that is great news.

Slats

P.S. Yeah, I think it is heather mist. ??? My next accord when I buy a new one will be either silver or eternal blue.

I love all Meguiar's products!!! Hahaha!

[tripper_11]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Hi Slats,

Here's what Mike wrote,



The thing to remember is if you are taking good care of your finish, then hopefully you shouldn't have to use a cleaner/polish that often.

Mike

Does the same holds true for #80? or it may be applied more frequently than #83? tnx

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

Meguiar's #80 Speed Glaze is less aggressive compared to #83 DACP. Therefore, whatever you can do for DACP should also hold true for #80.

However, as Mike pointed out...once a finish has been brought to its maximum potential, you should not need a cleaner/polish all the time.

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by tripper_11
Does the same holds true for #80? or it may be applied more frequently than #83? tnx

Hi tripper_11

Welcome to Meguiar's Online!

As Tim said, #80 is a lot less aggressive. It's also very easy to work with, offers a long play time, and is very easy to wipe off. For most people that are looking for a safe, effective cleaner/polish for light cleaning and polishing, this is an excellent first choice.

#80 Speed Glaze



Mike

[tripper_11]

thank you very much for the prompt reply. glad that i caught the attention of highly respected detailers like you!

[xjdmb16a2six]

off topic: do you have to follow up with #80 after using #83??? can you use #81 or #7 instead?

[tripper_11]

I prefer to follow #83 with #80, probably the best result, plus some of the hazing (if there were any) left by #83, you can finish by #80 with the yellow pad. What I did previously was to use #83 with the cutting pad, and #80 with the yellow pad, followed by #80 with the W9000 pad. I tried to follow up with #81, but no noticeable difference. (Same with #7)

OFF-TOPIC:

From what I observe, #80's finish produces a "look" (as if it has) like there was a gel coat... I really don't know why. I don't see this "look" on #7 and #81. Both just produce a nice "oil-wet" look. Can Mike explain this? What's this chemical in #80 that produce a unique "look" as if it has a gel coat? Anyway this is just my observation on a BC/CC silver CRV.

At any rate, I really love the #80's looks on its own. Even if applied by hand, you get that "gel-coat" look.

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

What you may be seeing is the effect of the paintable polymer that is in #80 Speed Glaze. So while #80 does have some TS Oils, similar to #7 or #81 (which are pure polishes), the paintable polymer in he #80 may be what you are seeing.

Now top the #80 with 2 coats of NXT Tech Wax! You will LOVE the finish!!!

Tim

[tripper_11]

Ah ok! So this "paintable polymer" is the one mike referred to when he said that #80 provides some sort of protection on the finish, am i right, which is not present on #7 and #81. Anyway, I love the finish!

Yes, I do followed with NXT x 2, all I could say is just, it "deepens" the finish. What more could I ask???

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

Yes, the paintable polymer in #80 will provide some protection.

Cheers!

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by xjdmb16a2six
off topic: do you have to follow up with #80 after using #83??? can you use #81 or #7 instead?

Hi xjdmb16a2six,

Wow! your forum name is a real, copy and paste name!

As to your question: Does #83 DACP need to be followed with a secondary cleaner/polish like the #80 Speed Glaze, or can a person go right to a pure polish like the #81 or the #7?

It depends on the results you see after the #83 and the results you see after cleaning your car's finish with the #83 are determined by paint hardness, (or softness), pad choice and technique, (your skill level).

Basically, if the finish looks good as in clear and glossy with no haze then yes you can go right to a pure polish or even wax. If you see any haze left over by the #83 DACP, or the process, (pad choice/skill level), then you should re-polish with a less aggressive cleaner/polish like the #80 Speed Glaze.

Hope this helps...

Mike