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Re: Need help with M105
thanks for your detailed info, is Random Orbital polisher = D/A polisher?
Originally posted by Michael Stoops
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You need to use a much less aggressive approach than what you've been doing. I don't normally do this, but I'm going to quote myself here just to reinforce what happened to cause this problem in the first place.
So the first thing we want you to do is put away the wool pad and M105 - you do NOT need anything that aggressive as it's only gotten you into trouble here. Lesson learned.
While it is possible to finish virtually hologram free with a rotary buffer, it takes a lot of experience and skill, but you don't achieve that finish with the pad and liquid you chose. If you're going to insist on using the rotary then we would suggest moving to a W8207 yellow polishing pad and some M205. But don't run the tool any faster than 1200 rpm, preferably even slower than that. You will need to keep the pad flat against the paint and move the tool slowly over the paint, using only light to moderate pressure - mostly light. Take your time.
That said, we honestly don't think you should be using a rotary for this work at this stage of your experience. A D/A polisher like our G110v2 or even a used Porter Cable you can pick up on ebay is going to be much easier to master and every bit as effective at removing these rotary instilled defects. You can learn to be highly proficient with a D/A in just a few minutes, but the rotary takes a long time to master. With improper use of a rotary, and a less than complete understanding of the process, you end up with the situation you're in now. You would use the same yellow pad and M205 or even Ultimate Compound from our consumer line to correct this. As a matter of fact, we use the G110v2, W8207 pad and Ultimate Compound when teaching our Saturday classes, and we've had black cars with heavy holograms come out beautifully, even when letting first timers take a crack at it.
Please understand that we aren't trying to chastise you or make you feel bad. You obviously care about your Tribeca or you wouldn't be trying to make the paint perfect, nor would you be spending time on a detailing forum. We like your car, too, and want you to be successful and happy with the result. But trying to self teach with a rotary, especially on a black car, is generally just an exercise in frustration - as you're finding out. For as bad as this looks, you can correct it and achieve the results you want. But we highly recommend going with a D/A buffer to get the job done.
So the first thing we want you to do is put away the wool pad and M105 - you do NOT need anything that aggressive as it's only gotten you into trouble here. Lesson learned.
While it is possible to finish virtually hologram free with a rotary buffer, it takes a lot of experience and skill, but you don't achieve that finish with the pad and liquid you chose. If you're going to insist on using the rotary then we would suggest moving to a W8207 yellow polishing pad and some M205. But don't run the tool any faster than 1200 rpm, preferably even slower than that. You will need to keep the pad flat against the paint and move the tool slowly over the paint, using only light to moderate pressure - mostly light. Take your time.
That said, we honestly don't think you should be using a rotary for this work at this stage of your experience. A D/A polisher like our G110v2 or even a used Porter Cable you can pick up on ebay is going to be much easier to master and every bit as effective at removing these rotary instilled defects. You can learn to be highly proficient with a D/A in just a few minutes, but the rotary takes a long time to master. With improper use of a rotary, and a less than complete understanding of the process, you end up with the situation you're in now. You would use the same yellow pad and M205 or even Ultimate Compound from our consumer line to correct this. As a matter of fact, we use the G110v2, W8207 pad and Ultimate Compound when teaching our Saturday classes, and we've had black cars with heavy holograms come out beautifully, even when letting first timers take a crack at it.
Please understand that we aren't trying to chastise you or make you feel bad. You obviously care about your Tribeca or you wouldn't be trying to make the paint perfect, nor would you be spending time on a detailing forum. We like your car, too, and want you to be successful and happy with the result. But trying to self teach with a rotary, especially on a black car, is generally just an exercise in frustration - as you're finding out. For as bad as this looks, you can correct it and achieve the results you want. But we highly recommend going with a D/A buffer to get the job done.
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