M105 and 205 with DA

[CDN]

I tested 2 products... M205 with the DA is super very easy to use...

On the other hand, M105 is much more difficult with the DA because it dries extremely quickly. Is it a good solution to vaporize M34 on the pad when he begins to dry?

[ClearlyCoated]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

No, but you should be priming the pad with M34 before you start using the M105 to help prevent absorption and buildup. Clean your pad periodically (Cleaning Your Pad On The Fly) and wipe off the M105 before it dries.

[CDN]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

I clean my pad to everything panels with this technique or a brush...

On the other hand, I moisten always at first the pad with M34 but I find that with M105 that he becomes dry very quickly compared with M205. If I moisten him too much, then it is not better because the product splashes...

[PorscheGuy997]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

If you are polishing with a DA, you do not have to prime the pad with M34. In reality, the M34 is reducing the amount of cut by adding more lubricant to the pad.

Have you tried priming the pad with M105 or M205?

Take a look at this thread:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31568

It really sounds like there is not enough product on the pad. When this happens, M105 tends to dry up very quickly.

Which version of M105 are you using? The DA approved version should have a DA picture on the back.

[Chop]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

I tested 2 products... M205 with the DA is super very easy to use...

On the other hand, M105 is much more difficult with the DA because it dries extremely quickly. Is it a good solution to vaporize M34 on the pad when he begins to dry?

Exactly my experience. Are you sure you are not me?

Anyways, the advice I got here in the forum to prevent M105 drying was to either reduce the working area, reduce the number of passes I was doing before the wipe off, or use more product while keeping the working are small.

[CDN]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

I spread the M105 with my fingers also compared with a circle as the other products... On the other hand, never so uniformly as on the example...

With 205 and 105, I wet the pad, removed the excess of water with the machine and I added a few M34. With 205 it works very well but not many with 105. I also wondered why in certain moment it was less aggressive...
I also wondered why in certain cases it was less aggressive...

I believe that the important with 105 is to use it on very small surface and to begin again if necessary... With 205 it is much simpler and if the need asks to polish longer then you continue simply...

PS: I have 105 DA version

[CDN]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

If you are polishing with a DA, you do not have to prime the pad with M34. In reality, the M34 is reducing the amount of cut by adding more lubricant to the pad.

Have you tried priming the pad with M105 or M205?

Take a look at this thread:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31568

It really sounds like there is not enough product on the pad. When this happens, M105 tends to dry up very quickly.

Which version of M105 are you using? The DA approved version should have a DA picture on the back.

I tried just with 105 but it becomes dry and dusty very quickly... With this technique, how much maximal pass which I should make?

I believed that with this new series that we could make the number of pass required according to the situation..

[ClearlyCoated]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

CDN, do you have the new 105, or the older version intended for rotary use?

[Sal329]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

Apply a circle of M105 on the pad and use a MF towel to prime the pad with the 105. Put the pad on the panel, speed 6 turn on and begin to buff. This has worked great for me. Apply more pressure for more cut.

[CDN]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

CDN, do you have the new 105, or the older version intended for rotary use?

PS: I have 105 DA version

[CDN]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

Apply a circle of M105 on the pad and use a MF towel to prime the pad with the 105. Put the pad on the panel, speed 6 turn on and begin to buff. This has worked great for me. Apply more pressure for more cut.

I am going to try this technique.

How much pass can you make so?

[3Fitty]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

CDN,

The method PorscheGuy gave you, now commonly known as the KBM (Kevin Brown Method) seems to be the most effective way to work M105 with a DA. I've tried it myself, with exceptional results and I think most agree. I'm not sure why you are having problems.

[CDN]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

I tried several methods (techniques)... I try to look the best and for trick of each for a better efficiency because I found him more difficult than 205...

Thanks!

[Sal329]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

I varry the pressure depending on what I am trying to remove, my last 2 passes I ease up to the weight of the PC only. I have been reading all over the place for the KBM and I am anxiously waiting for his release of what looks to be an awesome short novel. Im not sure if my method goes along with the KBM but I know it has been working.
I usually do an area no bigger then 2'x2', I turn the PC on and do a fast movement make kinda like a box then slow down and do 2-3 passes with pressure and 2 passes with just the PC weight.

[Jeff U]

Re: M105 and 205 with DA

I have found M105 very challenging to use. I have the same trouble as CDN, it drys out VERY quickly. I have the DA approved version. I've tried the prime method, tried a little water spray, smaller work area, various speeds, the fabled KBM method, etc... but is still a struggle to use. And, when it drys out it is a bear to remove.

The only way I could get it to not dry out was to either use lots of product or to spray with water. In both cases, preventing it from drying created a problem with splatter.

On one of my cars, I tested a small area and simply continued to polish after it dried out. It created quite a bit of dust, but caused no paint problems and actually did a fine job creating a good finish. But I don't think this is a good method.

It may be that I'm just not skilled enough but, for now, I'm going to leave M105 on the shelf and try some alternative products.

It seems to me the product needs more lubricant (a lot more).

M205 is very easy to use and I still plan on using it.