Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

[Precision]

Hi all,

I bought #7 glaze from my local auto store and I will be using it Megs #21 v2.0 when #21 will arrive to my house within a few days.

I don't know if this is a myth or not but somehow, people are claiming that #7 is hard to wipe off???

When I detail car within a couple weeks I will for sure apply #7 and see for myself it the product is hard to wipe off or not. For those of you experience in using #7 is the product a bit had to wipe off?

I am assuming the people who told me this, they must have applied a thick coat. Thanks for the inputs everyone!!

Precision

[Daniel Kinder]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

Hey precision

#7 is like anything else it's all in the technique.

When applying #7 just work into the paint, alot of people do sections at a time and wipe off.

I will start on the horizontal surfaces then work my way from the front to the rear and come back down the other side of the car.

When finished grab a clean micro-fiber towel and start to wipe off or remove, but the key here is to not try to remove it in one swipe instead go all around car wiping off the same fashion as applied and when finished go back over the whole surface again to rewipe for a second time in some case's it takes as many as 3 times to remove all the excess polish off.

When wiping off what your doing is what is called skiming the surface, #7 has the most polishing oils out of all the meguiars polishes products, and when using/applying this product it's important to use the right technique or your not going to get the fantatsic results that follow.

#7 was intended towards the single stage paint but can be applied to the clear coat paint as well. Apply and removed as stated and you will love this product as much as I do. Also for best results clay your paint followed by a paint cleaner then apply the # 7 and put on 2 coats of your favorite meguairs wax on and stand back and look at the depth,clarity,richness of color that you have just produced!

Hope this helped.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

People who find M07 Show Car Glaze difficult to remove are usually using it wrong. Since this is a pure polish it should not be allowed to dry on the surface - just work it against the paint in small areas and wipe off while still wet. If it dries, which you should not let it do, then it can be difficult to remove. Wipe it off while still wet and it comes off pretty easily. As easily as a fully hazed of coat of M21 Synthetic Sealant? No, but it is a very different product.

[Precision]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

thanks for the reply michael stoops.

what i will do basically is to just apply #7 on the whole car and then wipe off. The process would be:

LSP Stage:
1.) Megs ColorX
2.) Megs #7 Glaze
3.) Megs #21 v2.0 Sealant

.....wait 24hrs for the sealant to bond to the paint.

4.) Megs #26 Carnuba Wax

Thanks

Precision

[Sydster]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

thanks for the reply michael stoops.

what i will do basically is to just apply #7 on the whole car and then wipe off. The process would be:

LSP Stage:
1.) Megs ColorX
2.) Megs #7 Glaze
3.) Megs #21 v2.0 Sealant

.....wait 24hrs for the sealant to bond to the paint.

4.) Megs #26 Carnuba Wax

Thanks

Precision

Apply it on small sections of the car at a time then wipe off while wet before going to another section, at least this is what I do.

[VonLego]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

not sure if 7 can fet under colorx if you let it set.

found 7 to be VERY easy to use on a clean surface

[Orca]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

... just to add a comment about the amount of product. Since you'll wipe it off while it is still wet, it would be a shame to waste product by over-application. Likewise, too little product and it will dry out in the area you are dealing with and you'll be left with a problem.

I find to apply just the right amount (which comes from experience) and wipe it around the panel, being prepared to widen my workspace if I find the product will spread further and I will be able to wipe off before it dries.

Once wiped off, you'll find a lovely creaking surface, deep and oily ... Mmmmm (like Homer) ... top off with #26, stand back and enjoy

[CharlesW]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

i am assuming the people who told me this, they must have applied a thick coat.
Precision

I happen to be one that has a problem with #7. I tried thin coats, thick coats and still had a problem.

#7 is like anything else it's all in the technique.

I will start on the horizontal surfaces then work my way from the front to the rear and come back down the other side of the car.

When finished grab a clean micro-fiber towel and start to wipe off or remove, but the key here is to not try to remove it in one swipe instead go all around car wiping off the same fashion as applied and when finished go back over the whole surface again to rewipe for a second time in some case's it takes as many as 3 times to remove all the excess polish off.

When wiping off what your doing is what is called skiming the surface, #7 has the most polishing oils out of all the meguiars polishes products, and when using/applying this product it's important to use the right technique or your not going to get the fantatsic results that follow.

#7 was intended towards the single stage paint but can be applied to the clear coat paint as well.

My technique could very well have been the problem although I tried several different methods.
It appears that you let it dry before removing. When I let it dry, it was very, very difficult to remove. At least for me.
Having to go over the area as many as 3 times certainly takes it out of the realm of "easy" for me.
And since #7 was intended use with single stage paint, why not use #81 which was developed for CC. (If you feel you need a glaze.)

people who find m07 show car glaze difficult to remove are usually using it wrong. Since this is a pure polish it should not be allowed to dry on the surface - just work it against the paint in small areas and wipe off while still wet. If it dries, which you should not let it do, then it can be difficult to remove. Wipe it off while still wet and it comes off pretty easily. As easily as a fully hazed of coat of m21 synthetic sealant? No, but it is a very different product.

And here, it is removed while wet. "Comes off pretty easily" is possibly an indication that it might not be all that easy.

apply it on small sections of the car at a time then wipe off while wet before going to another section, at least this is what i do.

Another suggestion to remove it while wet.

... Just to add a comment about the amount of product. Since you'll wipe it off while it is still wet, it would be a shame to waste product by over-application. Likewise, too little product and it will dry out in the area you are dealing with and you'll be left with a problem.

I find to apply just the right amount (which comes from experience) and wipe it around the panel, being prepared to widen my workspace if i find the product will spread further and i will be able to wipe off before it dries.

Once wiped off, you'll find a lovely creaking surface, deep and oily ... Mmmmm (like homer) ... Top off with #26, stand back and enjoy

Too little product, too much product, just the right amount which comes from experience, takes it out of the easy category for me.
My hat is off to those of you that have the great results with it.

Given the number of good products that are very easy to use, it is something that I no longer have any interest in. Purchased it twice because I was told my problems were user error. Made several applications using different techniques, continued to have problems, gave it away both times.
M80 or ColorX followed by NXT 2.0 is about as easy as it gets and the results are absolutely stunning. No concern about technique, don't have to worry about whether to wipe wet or let it dry, don't have to wipe 3 times. Just follow the instructions. Always works, always works easy. I like easy.

FWIW, #7 is the only Meguiar's product I have ever purchased that I have had a problem with. I used the Medallion series for the 12 or so years it was available. Easy on, easy off, never a problem.

[acsuppa]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

not sure if 7 can fet under colorx if you let it set.

found 7 to be VERY easy to use on a clean surface

I also find it very to use if the surface is properly preped. I've been using #7 for a long time and ony once had a slight issue wiping it off. The surface had bonded contaniments and wasn't clean and smooth. On clean well preped surfaces, it glides on and wipes off pretty easily.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

A good rule of thumb is that anytime you're finding a product difficult to work with is first to read the directions for application on the back of the label on the bottle as a lot of care goes into using just the right words on the limited amount of real estate available on a label.

Another good rule of thumb is whenever you're finding a product difficult to work with besides making sure you're using the right product for the job, try shrinking the size of your work area down.

[CharlesW]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

A good rule of thumb is that anytime you're finding a product difficult to work with is first to read the directions for application on the back of the label on the bottle as a lot of care goes into using just the right words on the limited amount of real estate available on a label.

Another good rule of thumb is whenever you're finding a product difficult to work with besides making sure you're using the right product for the job, try shrinking the size of your work area down.

Good points.
It's been a few years since my uses, but since I'm kind of a stickler for reading and following instructions, I would like to think I did that with the #7. Can't say for sure, but it wouldn't be my nature to just jump in. My later tries were following the instructions and trying all the different suggestions I received. They varied considerably. Both from the instructions and from some of the information in this thread.

Only once did I use it on a large area. After the fiasco of removal, all my later tries were in very small areas. Once bitten, I can share the blame with someone else. The second and third times I have only myself to blame.

Your comment about the right product for the job kind of fits in with my suggestion for anyone looking at #7 to consider #81. An easy product to use.

Hey, I accept full responsibility for my inability to get the same results as all these others. I just moved on to a different process.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

And here, it is removed while wet. "Comes off pretty easily" is possibly an indication that it might not be all that easy.

You'll notice that in my post I was very clear that it does not remove as easily as a hazed over coat of wax. It really is more like removing a cleaner polish, such as M80, during the paint cleaning step. It's extremely rare to read someone saying M80 is hard to remove, and when used properly M07 is quite similar.

Too little product, too much product, just the right amount which comes from experience, takes it out of the easy category for me.

The same can be said for applying a wax or sealant, using a cleaner polish such as M80 or M83, or even a leather or vinyl dressing. Yes, you have to use the right amount and use it correctly - regardless of which product you're using.

[CharlesW]

Re: Meguiar's #7 glaze hard to wipe off?

You'll notice that in my post I was very clear that it does not remove as easily as a hazed over coat of wax. It really is more like removing a cleaner polish, such as M80, during the paint cleaning step. It's extremely rare to read someone saying M80 is hard to remove, and when used properly M07 is quite similar.


The same can be said for applying a wax or sealant, using a cleaner polish such as M80 or M83, or even a leather or vinyl dressing. Yes, you have to use the right amount and use it correctly - regardless of which product you're using.

Not to argue the point since I seem to be the only one in the world that doesn't love #7, but.....
None of the other products you mention struck me as being in the least bit difficult to use. In fact any of the Meguiar's products I have used were easy. #5, #6, #9, #26, #66, #80, #81, #82, #83, #97, #98. No special process needed. Just don't get them on textured trim. Pretty close to idiot proof. (They worked for me. )
Like I said, it's just a me and #7 don't work well together thing.