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I have some really nasty stuff to get rid of in the black paint of my girlfriend's car. Which paint cleaners are okay for use by hand? Are 1, 2, and 4 okay to use? What about 80, 95, and 105?
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Here are some things that would help us in making a recommendation:
*first of all, pictures. You can only do so good in describing it.
*Secondly, have you washed the vehicle? Have you clayed it? You'd be surprised at how much this will affect the paint finish.
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Yeah, what is the nasty stuff exactly?2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR BlueComment
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What are you working on?
And what do you mean by nasty?Comment
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3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.Comment
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it's all fairly deep scratches and swirls. I have clayed the car before and used the deep crystal paint cleaner but I didn't have the time then to sit there with a tube of ScratchX for eight hours to get rid of all the swirls and scratches. Anyways, from using ScratchX on my car, I know that I'm going to need something quite a bit more agressive for her car.
and I can't really get access to take pictures right now as she is out of town...
that help any?Comment
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Sounds like you really don't have too many options if you are working by hand. Your hand can only do so much and if Scratch X can't cut it, then you are looking at either doing something via machine or maybe even 105 by hand if it is that bad?Comment
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Have you tried a test spot to see how the paint reacts to ScratchX? Every paint is different and you may be surprised how effective it may be on her car. If ScratchX does not work after several attempts, then you may wish to use either D151 or M105 as they can be used by a rotary polisher and by hand. The other products you list like M04, M01, M95 are for rotary use only and not to be used by hand.Originally posted by colinhayes View Post
Removing swirls and scratches by hand is very tedious and sometimes just not possible. Try a test spot and see what happens. Often a machine polisher will be required.
Keep us posted!
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I do believe that I tried to on a small patch when I last detailed her car to no avail.Originally posted by Tim Lingor View Post
If I try real hard I think I might have access to a rotary tool, but I have never used one before (my Miata is just too small to warrant the need for a power tool to detail it). Should I consider using that?
PS. it's a slightly older black and decker random orbital tool, and I do have access to it.Comment
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No I would not consider it. You need to practice a fair amount before taking a rotary to your paint as you could do damage otherwise.Originally posted by colinhayes View Post
The best solution is to obtain a Dual Action (DA) polisher like the Meg's G110 or a Porter Cable 7424. With the proper tools and products, you will be surpised just how well a DA works! Then after a person has used a DA for sometime, then it would be more appropriate to move up to a rotary polisher. Otherwise, learning to use a rotary and through incorrect technique, you may instill holograms, or worse buffer burn that requires a lot of work to remove or to repair.
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but doesn't dual-action = random orbital?Comment
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No the random orbital buffers and the DAs are VERY different. The DA's have a lot more power and are able to do some paint correction whereas ROB really only are good for removing waxes...Comment
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so I'm thoroughly interested in the G110 polisher now....
which paint cleaners are okay to use with it?Comment
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Here's a thread about the differences in tools and what they can and cannot do...
Rotary vs PC vs Regular Orbital Buffer
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All Meguiar's Consumer paint care products can be applied with a DA polisher.Originally posted by colinhayes View Post
In our Professional Line, these are recommended for use with a DA Polisher.
Paint Cleaners: M02
Cleaner/Polishes: M09, M80, M82, M83
Lots of people are getting great results using M105 with a DA Polisher but at this time it's not an official recommendation by Meguiar's.
M105 is also the most aggressive product we offer for use by hand on clear coat paints and it's very effective at removing scratches.
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