Differences between #135 and #34?

[pologuy]

Hi,

Was wondering what the differences between #135 and #34 were?

[yalerd]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

M135 is a mist and wipe product with the new Hydrophobic Polymer Technology. It will enhance wax protection so it's perfect on those in between washes and waxes.

M34 is also a mist and wipe product that offers great lubricity that it's great for removing lights dust, fingerprints, great for claying. Doesn't offer any protection at all.

[kellyinkc]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

I agree. #34 is awesome. Great for lube for claying. I just ordered a gallon of the stuff.

Kelly

[TimG]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

Just to chime in, #34 sometimes is used after the polishing process as to ensure all the fillers are removed plus its body shop safe. Some prefer IPA and some prefer FI. I'm not 100% sure which one is better as my experience in using them both is pretty much limited.

#135 is a great QD (mist n wipe product -go get a gallon ) and as what yalerd stated, it has the Hydrophobic feat (ability to sheet water off). I'm unsure whether #135 is body shop safe as the Hydrophobic feat may interfere with the paint adhesion process. (Others welcome to comment on this)

Anyhow, can 34 be used as a QD? Must have slipped my mind...hmmm


Hope this helps.

Tim

[yalerd]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

Anyhow, can 34 be used as a QD? Must have slipped my mind...hmmm

Yes, that's about what it is.

The only thing that may difference M34 and Quik Detailer is that M34 specifically formulated for fresh safe environments and Quik Detailer is not safe on fresh paint environments.

But in the end both products are designed to maintain that "just detailed" look

[TimG]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

..i meant as clay lubricant.. sorry typo..

Yes, that's about what it is.

The only thing that may difference M34 and Quik Detailer is that M34 specifically formulated for fresh safe environments and Quik Detailer is not safe on fresh paint environments.

But in the end both products are designed to maintain that "just detailed" look

[Tim Lingor]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

Just to chime in, #34 sometimes is used after the polishing process as to ensure all the fillers are removed plus its body shop safe. Some prefer IPA and some prefer FI. I'm not 100% sure which one is better as my experience in using them both is pretty much limited.

#135 is a great QD (mist n wipe product -go get a gallon ) and as what yalerd stated, it has the Hydrophobic feat (ability to sheet water off). I'm unsure whether #135 is body shop safe as the Hydrophobic feat may interfere with the paint adhesion process. (Others welcome to comment on this)

Anyhow, can 34 be used as a QD? Must have slipped my mind...hmmm


Hope this helps.

Tim

Just for clarification, M34 does not remove fillers as it is not a strong cleaner, but is a mist and wipe type of product used for removal of dust, finger prints, smudges etc. I have used literally gallons and gallons of M34 over the years as it is an all purpose product: a QD, a clay lubricant, body shop safe, priming my rotary and DA pads both wool and foam etc etc...

M135 is a very different product. While it is part of the mist and wipe family of QD's, it's Hydrophobic Polymer Technology allows the water to just run off the surface. It is not recommended as a clay lubricant and is not body shop safe. But when used, creates a beautiful wet looking gloss!

In the end, you really need and want both products, one as the jack of all trades and the other as more of a finishing and maintenance product.

Tim

[TimG]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

Just for clarification, M34 does not remove fillers as it is not a strong cleaner, but is a mist and wipe type of product used for removal of dust, finger prints, smudges etc. I have used literally gallons and gallons of M34 over the years as it is an all purpose product: a QD, a clay lubricant, body shop safe, priming my rotary and DA pads both wool and foam etc etc...

Tim

Hey Mr Tim L., thanks for the clarification! Anyhow, I've been using FI for all above except for clay lube (never tried as I was afraid I'd ruin my clays)..

BTW, Should F.I be diluted 1:1 or on RTU basis?

Anyhow, one thing for sure is that I really like FI for the ability to clean the paint surface after compounding/polishing (ie, 105, 95,83, 80 - tested them all). Mostly using FI for wipedown pluys to check whether defects are removed. LT, IPA - seldom use.

Darn, I think I need to fly myself to the classes in the states! I need to learn more!
Anyone needs a trainee there?

Tim

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

I really like the results with #135. Its a great product.

[TimG]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

Just read more on the previous post/threads (2007-2004) regarding FI.
One of it was Mr Mike Phillips, stated that FI is not diluteable. Thus I assume claying on RTU basis.

Well, my previous perception was fixed solely on LT being a mist & wipe product plus claying and not for body shop environment and FI being similar and always thought it was not meant for claying which was not really accurate.

So you see, this is what I like about MOL. There's always helpful people teaching/advising/criticizing even when we are worlds apart.


(anyone there needs a trainee?)


Thanks again.

Tim

[Tim Lingor]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

Just read more on the previous post/threads (2007-2004) regarding FI.
One of it was Mr Mike Phillips, stated that FI is not diluteable. Thus I assume claying on RTU basis.

Well, my previous perception was fixed solely on LT being a mist & wipe product plus claying and not for body shop environment and FI being similar and always thought it was not meant for claying which was not really accurate.

So you see, this is what I like about MOL. There's always helpful people teaching/advising/criticizing even when we are worlds apart.


(anyone there needs a trainee?)


Thanks again.

Tim

Morning,

Meguiar's M34 Final Inspection is Ready To Use and is not to be diluted.

As for Last Touch, it is ready to use as a detail spray but needs to be diluted 1:1 if used as a clay lubricant. And, Last Touch is not body shop safe.

Yes there is a lot to it and we are here to help anyone learn about the proper use of using Meguiar's products so that you can obtain the best finish possible!

Take care,
Tim

[yalerd]

Re: Differences between #135 and #34?

BTW, Should F.I be diluted 1:1 or on RTU basis?

It's ready to use.
The only one what can be diluted is Last Touch.