aggressive clay

[craZDetailer]

i was thinking about buying a more aggressive clay since ive been doing a lot of work on peoples cars. it seems that my arm is about to break since the regular clay just doesnt cut it for light rust stains and tar.

i was doin this fairly new s2k with 35k miles and the tar just didnt come off. i clayed the hood for a good hour and all the tar was still there. i used the pc with 80 and a little bit came off. got the rotary and used some 83 on a polishing pad and a little more came off. it was not fully perfected and i was pretty disappointed with the outcome.



i was wondering if i should buy the mild (blue)or agressive clay(red). im leaning towards the red one but is it too strong. how much marring will it leave.

[TxRado]

Re: aggressive clay

As stated in this thread do not use the red clay unless you plan on buffing the paint/CC afterwards.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3637&highlight=aggressive+clay

I've actually removed tar from my truck using the consumer line after lots of time and elbow grease so I bet the blue (C2000) would be sufficient to your needs.

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: aggressive clay

Ilike the mild (blue) clay. It has never disapointed me yet.

[Tom Weed]

Re: aggressive clay

If you are going to be buffing it afterwards and the blue clay is not getting the job done, then yes, you can try the red clay. Better to use it in a small area first and see how it's working for you, before you clay the entire car. Normally I do not need the red clay, but have had a few instances where I've needed it. Another option would be to use the Body Sponges like ADS sells, I use them quite a bit when the blue is not enough, but they will scuff the clear, so you will have to buff afterwards.

Tom

[yalerd]

Re: aggressive clay

I've never been in the situation were I need the aggressive (red) clay, I only use the mild (blue) and it has always worked for me.

Get both if you can, try with the mild (blue) first and evaluate, if you have to use the aggressive (red) clay then I would do what Tom said, test it in a small area.

[Tim Lingor]

Re: aggressive clay

Hey,

I use both the mild and aggressive clays often. But I also use the rotary polisher 90% of the time. The red aggressive clay can instill marring in some paints, hence the recommendation to stay with the Mild blue clay unless you are proficient in using the rotary polisher.

Tim

[Tom Weed]

Re: aggressive clay

THis was my last red clay job, actually, that didn't even work so well on this sap, I ended up with Goo Gone and a heat gun with a plastic razor blade...

This is an extreme case and as you can see, it didn't really matter if it scuffed the paint, I had to use 105 with a marron wool cutting pad...

[HagFan]

Re: aggressive clay

There is a high probability that these stains that the blue clay won't grab are more than surface-level bonded contaminates. If clay got everything off we wouldn't need the chemical and abrassive cleaners. If the tar is a bit heavy you probably want bug and tar remover first, rather than gunking up the clay. I know Cleaner/Wax and #80 will both clean stains that clay leaves behind; stains that have begun to penetrate a bit.

Now, that heavy sap is another story... Can't begin to help you there. That sounds like a job!

[TxRado]

Re: aggressive clay

THis was my last red clay job, actually, that didn't even work so well on this sap, I ended up with Goo Gone and a heat gun with a plastic razor blade...

This is an extreme case and as you can see, it didn't really matter if it scuffed the paint, I had to use 105 with a marron wool cutting pad...

Holly **** this car was JACKED up. That must have taken you forever....

[Tom Weed]

Re: aggressive clay

Holly **** this car was JACKED up. That must have taken you forever....

Yes, it was in bad shape, I worked pretty hard on it, but had it for a few days prior and had help, it was for a good cause...

Here's the thread...

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21584&highlight=stealth