Best LSP for silver?

[VoicesInMyHead]

Re: Best LSP for silver?

Not to cause a lot of trouble (maybe a little, though) I look at it this way...

If you have a clear coat, then there is nothing you can do to make your paint look better, except sand the clear off to the color, then you can work on the color. To make your color look the best it can, you must smooth and polish the clear.

It's like saying you can make the inside of your house look better if you clean the windows... However, the inside of your house does not change, just the ability to see what is behind the window better.

So it will always hold that what makes the clear as smooth and polished on one car will hold for most other clear coats regardless of what is underneath it, as you never really touch the color.

[3Fitty]

Re: Best LSP for silver?

^Exactly... but if I said things that succinctly... I wouldn't be able to bill them out the wazoo!!!

[VoicesInMyHead]

Re: Best LSP for silver?

^Exactly... but if I said things that succinctly... I wouldn't be able to bill them out the wazoo!!!

ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!! That made me crack up!

[TH0001]

Re: Best LSP for silver?

Well, I'm not arguing or debating I'm just looking at two points of view and evaluating which is more LOGICAL. Contrary to your quote above, I think logic does apply as I have evaluated your claims and I have evaluated those set forth by the pros on this board.

At this point it is up to you to look at two different set of views from respected detailers and pros and draw your own conclusion. Nothing wrong with that IMO. Like I said you are entitled to your beliefs which is fine and I am entitled to mine. Only yours are based on what some have told you and their experiences and mine is based on my experience.

My LOGICAL conclusion, which you have yet to controvert is that "if we accept that black is the hardest to make look good, and brand "x" makes black look good, doesn't logic dictate that brand "x" will make all else look good".

You have not defined "good". Black is the hardest color to make perfect (in terms of defect removal) but the easiest to make look good with a wax IMO. 95% of the shine comes from the prep, so you are comparing apples to oranges. Black is the harderst to prep, yes, but overall it is going to look good no matter the wax if it polished correctly. It is all in the prep work, but don't confuse that with LSP selection. If we eliminate prep and assume the paint is healthy and in great condition, then I would say that just washing it will make black look good.

I frequent many detailing forums and I try my best to EVALUATE information given to me (as a non-pro that is the best way to learn). I need to make an evaluation all the time with opinions (usually made by pros). For example... one thing I read on other forums all the time is...

Sounds like a good way to learn. I for one am always willing to discuss why I feel a certian way and take heat from certain high level pros as myself because I am very open and honest with my opinions. Many of the best pros do not post on forums, nor are they very public of their opinion because they end up creating their own competitors.

"Car company "X" has hard paint" (which never made sense to me). Then, I learn at this forum that paint hardness is "car specific" not "brand specific". The former statement NEVER made sense to me, but at some other forums, that notion is passed off as gospel.

I drive a 2008 Lexus IS350. If someone says "Lexus has hard paint", does that mean I am to assume that a 1994 ES300 has the same paint as a car made 14 years later, in a different plant which is a different model?

Not sure what this has to do with LSP's. There is a lot of misinformation on there, but that goes on all forums, including this one.

Logic dictates that the claim "company "X" has hard paint" is false. Similarly, I use the same logic with regards to how wax looks on a particularl paint.

Isn't this the same as looking at apples to find which orange tastes better?

A silver car is not very reflective. Using a wax like Souveran (which is very warm and deep) is going to look good, but will it look the best? I prefer using something that will focuses more on increasing the gloss. In general a synthetic (such as NXT, #21, Zaino, Werkstatt, Klasse) is going to give a brighter appearance.

A black car is naturally very reflective (regardless of there is a clear coat or not) so too many eyes a deeper "carnuaba" look is more desirable. Again many top pros (infact almost all) would agree with me.

The question is what looks "best" and this is always subjective. Using something deep and moderately reflective on silver wouldn't look as good to me.