Best Followup to DACP???

[Matt83076]

Hello all, I’m having a little trouble deciding on what would be the best follow up to #83 DACP.

I spent most of the day last Saturday polishing out the swirls from my black Acura 3.2 CL-S, and I must say that I am pretty happy with what I was able to accomplish with the PC and a polishing pad along with the DACP. After I finished polishing the car I tried to use some Deep Crystal #2 polish with a polishing pad to really bring out the shine and gloss, but I found that removing the DC2 was VERY hard. It took me almost 40 minutes to just do the hood. I had to rub so hard that I could feel the metal start to give a little as I was rubbing. Now I was inside and in the shade when I was doing this, so the surface was cool, so I am not sure what I could have been doing wrong here. After I did the hood I pretty much just gave up on the DC#2 and gave the whole car a coat of NXT.

I have been searching for a long time here for some recommendations for a follow up to the DACP that will really bring out the gloss and depth of the paint. I feel that while the DACP did a great job of removing the swirls it didn’t leave the finish as glossy as it could be.

So I was thinking of either getting #81, or trying some #9 followed by some #7 (with a final coat or NXT). What products are easiest to use with a PC? What will give me the best result on my black paint?

Any opinions are welcome. Thanks for reading my novel!

[Bird03]

Matt,

I"m new here posting, but have gone from novice to great results since March with Meguiars products and this forum. My saga is on this post:

My new T Bird

Most polishes should be left wet and not buffed dry. I did the same thing you did with the DC#2, but I did the whole car before I removed it. I had to press so hard to remove it that I think I put a lot of scratches back into the car. I didn't figure out that if I just put more DC#2 on it would liquify it and could be just wiped off.

That said, #83 does have some polish in it (it is a cleaner/polish). And it should be buffed till dry (but not so far as it becoming dust).

If you want to polish more than just whats in the #83 (car crazy polishing not just defect removal) go with #81 hand polish on a finishing pad at 3.0 Work it in good, but not till dry and do one panel at a time. The difficulty in removal should be that there is just so much liquid product on the surface and so many towels need to be used to try to get it off--- not that it is dryed on and needs to be scraped off.

Good luck, Wes

[tguil]

On my black Hemi, I get very good results with #82 using a polishing pad and the pc set at 5. I remove the residue by hand with a microfiber polishing cloth. NXT is my sealant of choice -- 2 coats 24 hours apart. I do not use a carnauba topper.

Tom

[Rockpick]

Matt,

First and foremost, welcome to meguiarsonline.com! We're glad to have you aboard!

I understand your situation with #83 and have experienced it myself on darker colored paints. Black tends to be the beast of all beasts to make pop and it certainly sounds like you're well on your way to making that happen.

A few observations about your post...

DC#2 is a product that I've found to work best when it's applied in ULTRA-THIN coats. This will eliminate your over-effort to have to remove the product. DC#2 may or may not really bring your finish back to that 'high-pop' that you're obviously wanting to achieve and should expect to achieve.

My suggestion would be to follow the #83 with a product like #82 or even #9. Both of these products are rated a '3' on the 'cut scale' and should really help you to achieve your goals. Personally, I've had superior results with #82. You mentioned #81 as well and that is a good candidate too but, I suspect that if you use #81, you can probably skip the #7 as it is a product very similar to #7 but for catalyzed finishes.

So, in summary. If it were mine, using a PC:

#83
#82
NXT
NXT
#26



GOOD LUCK!

RP

[Tim Lingor]

Hey

I have to agree with Rockpick, though I do not top the NXT. But another combo that I have had great success on darker colors is:

#83 DACP + #80 Speed Glaze + #81 Hand Polish + NXT x 2

#83 DACP -- W-8006 Polishing pad, PC set to speed 5
#80 Speed Glaze - W-9006 Finishing Pad, PC speed 4
#81 HP - W-9006 pad, PC speed 3
NXT W-9006 Pad, PC Speed 3; remove with Meg's Ultimate Bonnet over a clean W-8006 pad, PC speed 4-5.

Tim

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Bird03
Matt,

I"m new here posting, but have gone from novice to great results since March with Meguiar's products and this forum. My saga is on this post:

My new T Bird

Most polishes should be left wet and not buffed dry. I did the same thing you did with the DC#2, but I did the whole car before I removed it. I had to press so hard to remove it that I think I put a lot of scratches back into the car. I didn't figure out that if I just put more DC#2 on it would liquefy it and could be just wiped off.

That said, #83 does have some polish in it (it is a cleaner/polish). And it should be buffed till dry (but not so far as it becoming dust).

If you want to polish more than just whats in the #83 (car crazy polishing not just defect removal) go with #81 hand polish on a finishing pad at 3.0 Work it in good, but not till dry and do one panel at a time. The difficulty in removal should be that there is just so much liquid product on the surface and so many towels need to be used to try to get it off--- not that it is dried on and needs to be scraped off.

Good luck, Wes

How does that old saying go?

From the mouth of babes...


Very good Wes, I especially like the way your worded your last sentence. I may have to steal that from you!

That said, even when not polished to a dry buff, sometimes the #83 and the #82 can still be difficult to remove. In these cases, spritz on some Quick Detailer, or some M-34 Final Inspection and use your best 100% cotton terry cloth towel to remove.

Mike

Mike

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by 2hotford
Hey

I have to agree with Rockpick, though I do not top the NXT. But another combo that I have had great success on darker colors is:

#83 DACP + #80 Speed Glaze + #81 Hand Polish + NXT x 2

#83 DACP -- W-8006 Polishing pad, PC set to speed 5
#80 Speed Glaze - W-9006 Finishing Pad, PC speed 4
#81 HP - W-9006 pad, PC speed 3
NXT W-9006 Pad, PC Speed 3; remove with Meg's Ultimate Bonnet over a clean W-8006 pad, PC speed 4-5.

Tim

All of the above are great combos and produce stellar results. Sometimes it takes experience to help you to determine which combination to go with, sometimes you have to experiment, and sometimes it's just dumb luck. Point being, different Paint Types will react differently to different combinations.

Recently, an engineer from the Honda Corporation brought Meguiar's a Honda with a finish problem. They asked Meguiar's to evaluate and experiment with the paint system to determine if defects could be successfully removed, and afterwards, if the paint could be polished to state that the customer would find it acceptable.

I was fortunate to be a part of the group of people that did the testing and I was surprised at the combinations we tried till we found one that worked flawlessly.

Mike

[Matt83076]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I really appreciate the time and effort you put in to help me out and answer my questions.

[Rockpick]

Originally posted by Matt83076
Thanks for the replies everyone. I really appreciate the time and effort you put in to help me out and answer my questions.

No problem Matt. I hope we were able to point you in a direction! Let us know how it all turns out as we'd love to know!