#5 vs #7...already have #7 but S. Florida is humid and removing this stinks :)

[alkemyst]

It may be a non-issue now that I have a DA polisher coming (7424...did not know about the G110 ).

I have used #7 a LONG time (since 1989), and sometimes it comes right off and other times is just gums up, esp when it cools in the early evening hours and condensation starts.

I have been reading about #5 and most say it's inferior, but many say #7 is not worth the work.

I have a lot of #7 left, but if #5 is worth it I would change...

My paint is a real pearl white. (three stage, not just a basecoat/clear).

My plan is #83/80/9/7/NXT and probably just stick to 7/NXT until scratches warrant bringing out cleaners/abrasives.

Thanks...

[onawrxhigh]

Re: #5 vs #7...already have #7 but S. Florida is humid and removing this stinks

It may be a non-issue now that I have a DA polisher coming (7424...did not know about the G110 ).

I have used #7 a LONG time (since 1989), and sometimes it comes right off and other times is just gums up, esp when it cools in the early evening hours and condensation starts.

I have been reading about #5 and most say it's inferior, but many say #7 is not worth the work.

I have a lot of #7 left, but if #5 is worth it I would change...

My paint is a real pearl white. (three stage, not just a basecoat/clear).

My plan is #83/80/9/7/NXT and probably just stick to 7/NXT until scratches warrant bringing out cleaners/abrasives.

Thanks...

alkemyst,

I have used 7 but not 5. Yes 7 can be a real pain to get off the paint. A trick that I learned here is to not do the entire vehicle as it does not have to dry like a wax. Do a panel or 2 at a time then wipe off. The other thing about 7 was that it is designed for single stage paint so if your car has clear coat you might want to try 81 hand polish. Use it the same way as I stated for 7. A bit of advise for you multi step process. First start by doing a test spot with your least aggressive product first then step up to the next as needed. 80 has a lot of polishing oils in it so you may not need to go to 7 once you are finished with 80. I hope this helps you out a bit.

Andrew

[Michael Stoops]

Re: #5 vs #7...already have #7 but S. Florida is humid and removing this stinks

Used correctly (worked into a small area and wiped off long before it dries) 7 is not difficult to remove, but I find 81 Hand Polish even easier to apply and remove. I apply it with a microfiber applicator pad, working it against the paint with moderate pressure over an area equal to about half the hood at a time, then wipe off with a clean microfiber towel. Apply a wax/sealant on top of this and you get a gorgeous finish.

By the way, you say your plan is #83/80/9/7/NXT - why so many steps? Have you tried using 80 first, or even 9? If one of those gets out the defects there's no reason to use 83, and if 80 leaves a mar-free finish, there's no real reason to follow with 9. Two major concepts to always think about: 1) use the least aggressive product to get the job done and 2) always do a test spot first!

[roushstage2]

Re: #5 vs #7...already have #7 but S. Florida is humid and removing this stinks

I wouldn't say it is inferior, but it is made for use in humid conditions.

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: #5 vs #7...already have #7 but S. Florida is humid and removing this stinks

I wouldn't say it is inferior, but it is made for use in humid conditions.

I live on the west coast of Florida. I tried the #7. Had a hard time with it. Found out that #5 is more suitable for use in humid conditions. Switched over and have no regrets. Try it, it works well in our climate.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: #5 vs #7...already have #7 but S. Florida is humid and removing this stinks

Best thing to do when wondering about a product is to get information like you are on this forum but at the end of the day the only opinion that will count is yours.

Pick up a bottle of the #5 or maybe #81 Hand Polish which is a newer formula for modern clear coat paints, #5 came out in the 1950's for single stage paints. That doesn't mean it won't work on clear coat paints, it's just an older product from another generation. The name, "New Car Glaze" was accurate for when it came out but it invokes the idea that it's a product we make for brand new cars here in the year 2008 and yes you can use it on a car made this current year but a product like M81 Hand Polish is actually a modern version of #7 Show Car Glaze and might just be the best product for your application.

Pick up a bottle of both, #5 and #81 and then decide for yourself which product works best for you and your application and then share that on the forum for the benefit of all the rest of the people that read this thread today and into infinity....

[alkemyst]

Re: #5 vs #7...already have #7 but S. Florida is humid and removing this stinks

Used correctly (worked into a small area and wiped off long before it dries) 7 is not difficult to remove, but I find 81 Hand Polish even easier to apply and remove. I apply it with a microfiber applicator pad, working it against the paint with moderate pressure over an area equal to about half the hood at a time, then wipe off with a clean microfiber towel. Apply a wax/sealant on top of this and you get a gorgeous finish.

By the way, you say your plan is #83/80/9/7/NXT - why so many steps? Have you tried using 80 first, or even 9? If one of those gets out the defects there's no reason to use 83, and if 80 leaves a mar-free finish, there's no real reason to follow with 9. Two major concepts to always think about: 1) use the least aggressive product to get the job done and 2) always do a test spot first!

I have visible swirls. I didn't plan on using all the steps though if the finish came out right after the preceding one. This is also for only the first detail. I need to clay the car badly. I am sure I am going to pick up some damage to the finish no matter how careful I am.