Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

[TH0001]

ZoranC (forum member) informed me on autogeek that 105 uses non diminishing abrasives. That is it uses ultra fine finishing abrasives which are singular in shape,size,hardness, and cut. If this is the case, I would like to discuss how the product and remove paint aggressively, while finishing to a near LSP ready shine, with out the benefit of polishing itself out.

[Murr1525]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

It probably still diminishes, but it isnt the diminishing abrasives we know from the 80-series, etc.

I think micro-abrasives was the word Mike used.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

We've sent an e-mail to Mike Pennington and Jason Rose and asked them to chime in, could you please post any link where ZoranC has posted information so that we can make sure what he's posting is correct.

Mike and Jason won't be back to work till after the weekend, so if you can hang tight until then.

At the end of the day, what's most important is the results, not the science behind the technology. We don't share our secrets on the Internet and ZoranC was invited by Jason Rose to do some comparison testing here at Meguiar's, not sure how much information Jason shared with ZoranC but if any of it was supposed to remain confidential then we hope he's been responsible in what's he's been posting.

It's actually a small world out here on the Internet.

Again, please include any links to threads where you've read something about our M105 or any of our products so we can read what's been posted, mostly just to make sure it's accurate and if not then we'll do our best to clear up any confusion.

Thanks!

[Justin Murphy]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

At the end of the day, what's most important is the results, not the science behind the technology.

This sums it all up.

[ZoranC]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

... could you please post any link where ZoranC has posted information so that we can make sure what he's posting is correct.

This is my post TH0001 is referring to that sent him here asking: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...tml#post166298

We don't share our secrets on the Internet and ZoranC was invited by Jason Rose to do some comparison testing here at Meguiar's, not sure how much information Jason shared with ZoranC but if any of it was supposed to remain confidential then we hope he's been responsible in what's he's been posting.

As you can see nothing was posted that was not already public knowledge by the time I made my post. My post was made today. This is a post Mike Pennington himself made three days ago:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/sho...83&postcount=8

M105 does not feature diminishing abrasive. It features a new super micro abrasive.Mike

I hope that addresses any concern you might be having over my responsibility.

I would also like, now that you have let cat out of the bag (of me being invited over to do some comparison testing), to thank everyone for the opportunity I had, it was truly a pleasure, and I hope I will have such opportunity again one day.

[Jason Rose]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

I would like to discuss how the product and remove paint aggressively, while finishing to a near LSP ready shine, with out the benefit of polishing itself out.

Thanks for your curiosity about M105 Ultra-Cut Compound. With raves coming in from all over the world, it's a pleasure for me to hear the buzz (more accuratetly...read the buzz.)

To be clear, please know that M105 is not intended to be a LSP. It is not a polish. It is not part of a one-liquid system.

M105 Ultra-Cut Compound is...well, a compound. It is intended to go after sanding marks and severe defects. It is part of a two-liquid, two-step process...the second step being a Meguiar's polish that is positioned for follow up after a compound.

Within the category of aggressive compounds, we expect you will find what many others have already discovered...M105 will remove sanding marks incredibly fast and will leave an incredibly clear/glossy finish RELATIVE TO OTHER COMPOUNDS IN ITS CLASS. One can fully expect that this compound, unlike other "aggressive" compounds, will set you up for brief and easy second step polishing.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

I hope that addresses any concern you might be having over my responsibility.

Thank you for clearing that up.

To be clear, please know that M105 is not intended to be an LSP. It is not a polish. It is not part of a one-liquid system.

M105 Ultra-Cut Compound is...well, a compound. It is intended to go after sanding marks and severe defects. It is part of a two-liquid, two-step process...the second step being a Meguiar's polish that is positioned for follow up after a compound.

Within the category of aggressive compounds, we expect you will find what many others have already discovered...M105 will remove sanding marks incredibly fast and will leave an incredibly clear/glossy finish RELATIVE TO OTHER COMPOUNDS IN ITS CLASS. One can fully expect that this compound, unlike other "aggressive" compounds, will set you up for brief and easy second step polishing.

Thank you for chiming in Jason and accurately defining the correct purpose for this product and how it's positioned in our Professional Line.

[Superior Shine]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

It is part of a two-liquid, two-step process...the second step being a Meguiar's polish that is positioned for follow up after a compound.

Great now they tell me!

[ZoranC]

Re: Lets talk diminishing abrasives, specifically 105

Great now they tell me!