# 16 Is Dangerous...

[Mike Phillips]

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The tough part when you have ample #16 is what do you tell people to get as a substitute? Is there really a substitute for perfection? I think the new stuff, NXT and stuff is great on most cars, but on a silver or white car, nothing beats #16. Is #26 the new #16?

M16 creates a gloss surface, like you point out, that's good for light colored cars but if you're working on clear coats then it's relative, by this we mean if it's making you silver clearcoated car look glossy it's going to make a black clearcoated car look glossy because they both have clear coats.

Truth is, I've used as much M16 as anyone and probably more as I put it on ever car I detailed for 10 years, that's a lot of M16. I don't use it today because in most cases I'm trying to make all paint look as good as it can and it's pretty hard to beat NXT Tech Wax.

Black is the best test of any wax or paint sealant, and we'll have a chance to show this in about 3 weeks.




Should be fun!

[Mike Phillips]

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Really nice answer to Buellwinkle Lydia. Thank you.

[Superior Shine]

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where is it possible to get #16 now?

Email Kevin at: iamwaxman@aol.com

He sells it.

[tacomachas]

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where is it possible to get #16 now?

[Sydster]

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One might say that #16 improves fuel mileage.

[Lydia]

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I use #26. One thing to keep in mind is, you are not treating what is underneath the paint (whether it be fiberglass, plastic, or metal), you are treating the paint itself. I use the same thing on bikes as I do on cars. Meguiar's motorcycle line is good I'm sure, but I personally didn't see any reason to get the motorcycle specific wax since I already have probably 7 different kinds of wax. The base technology for the motorcycle wax is the same as the base technology for A-12 Cleaner Wax (which I happen to have over 1/2 gallon of). The only product I have purchased in the Meguiar's motorcycle line is the EZ Clean, and I haven't had a chance to use it yet.

I noticed you asked in another thread about what to use on seats so they aren't slick. I use #40 (from the professional line) and it works great. It "brings the black back" and protects without being slippery.

[Buellwinkle]

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Lydia,

What do you use on the plastic body panels on your R1100RT? Same as car wax or the motorcycle specific waxes Meguiars came out with?

[Lydia]

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I haven't had a chance yet to compare the two, but I got to say, #26 is just plain awesome. It creates a deep, clear finish, and it's really easy to apply. Plus it doesn't make the cracks in my trucks clear coat show up like most other waxes do.

[Buellwinkle]

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The tough part when you have ample #16 is what do you tell people to get as a substitute? Is there really a substitute for perfection? I think the new stuff, NXT and stuff is great on most cars, but on a silver or white car, nothing beats #16. Is #26 the new #16?

[roushstage2]

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I have picked up two cans of this myself, couldn't help it really, on sale for about $7 can. Haven't used any though...I imagine it would look awesome on black.

Still teetering on going back and getting the bottles of MPPC and MPPP for the collection.

[pcfxer]

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Most probably you were applying it too thick. Apply a REALLY THIN layer to the whole car. Then have a nice meal with a cold beer. After you finished with your coffee come back and wipe it off.

I have got to detail with you some time . Food, beer, top it with coffee, do you use two thin coffees or just one thick coffee. I find two thin coffees give better protection.

I think I know what I need

[EdT]

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I have 6 tins stashed away and still scrouging around the world to find more to my collection to top Mike's !

[veedub Mike]

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How long do you guys let it sit on the car before wiping it off? Do ya'll do the entire car or a section at a time? I tried doing my entire tahoe awhile back and my arm almost broke off becuase when the stuff dries, it feels like concrete!

Most probably you were applying it too thick. Apply a REALLY THIN layer to the whole car. Then have a nice meal with a cold beer. After you finished with your coffee come back and wipe it off.

[Nacho_Z71]

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How long do you guys let it sit on the car before wiping it off? Do ya'll do the entire car or a section at a time? I tried doing my entire tahoe awhile back and my arm almost broke off becuase when the stuff dries, it feels like concrete!

[RobAGD]

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Ok I was applying with the PC and its seemed to drag out and not cover. I am way overusing it then. Ill try again in the spring.

-R