#82 & #9 ?

[Jeff Smith]

I am looking at hitting my truck with either #82 or #9 tomorrow. I have used both products a time or 2 but not enough to really understand the differences between them.

What I am after is this. I have minot swirl here and there. Mostly MF/Towel induced swirls, nothing major. Most are likely in the wax coat itself. I don't need to clay. So I am looking at minor cleaning and polishing by using one of these 2 products with the PC and a 8006 pad.

I have both botle sitting here and with my limited experience with these 2 products it is difficult for me to reach a decision as to which of the 2 I would be better off running with. I know they are both very close and they are close enough that I am at a loss for knowing the differences to expect between the 2.

I am going to do some more searching on this but in the meantime I figured I would kick out a post to see of anyone might be able to point out some obvious differences that have eluded me.

[Tim Lingor]

Hi Jeff,

Meg's #82 Swirl Free Polish is slightly more aggressive than #9 Swirl Remover. I also prefer using #82 with a rotary buffer. The only other difference is perhaps a slight more clarity to the finish from #82 where #9 may add a bit more richness. With a PC, either one works very well for light swirls. Otherwise a rotary will be needed with either product for deeper swirls. I have used #9 on white paints for years and love the results!

Tim

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by 2hotford
Hi Jeff,

Meg's #82 Swirl Free Polish is slightly more aggressive than #9 Swirl Remover. I also prefer using #82 with a rotary buffer. The only other difference is perhaps a slight more clarity to the finish from #82 where #9 may add a bit more richness. With a PC, either one works very well for light swirls. Otherwise a rotary will be needed with either product for deeper swirls. I have used #9 on white paints for years and love the results!

Tim

Thanks Tim, after posting this I did some more searching and saw an old post from Mike to "ME" about this that I had forgotten about.

His comments, like yours, were that #82 leaned a tad more to being more aggressive. Since I do have some minor swirls to address I figured I would pick this for tomorrow. I will jump up to #80 if need be, but I find that doubtful. I am thinking #9 will likely be a better choice for me as a routine use cleaner/polish once I get the swirl minimized. Sounds like a plan anyway.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by 2hotford
Hi Jeff,

Meg's #82 Swirl Free Polish is slightly more aggressive than #9 Swirl Remover. I also prefer using #82 with a rotary buffer. The only other difference is perhaps a slight more clarity to the finish from #82 where #9 may add a bit more richness. With a PC, either one works very well for light swirls. Otherwise a rotary will be needed with either product for deeper swirls. I have used #9 on white paints for years and love the results!

Tim

Ok I am considering getting brave here. I have never use my Makita 9227 on a finish yet. I am considering the option of using this tonight or tomorrow on my truck for the first time.

Would this be wise?

If so could you offer any specific pointers?

Would I be better off using a 9006 pad as opposed to the 8006 as this will be my first time?

I am very leary about this but think it's time I took the plunge here.

[scrub]

Originally posted by Jeff Smith
Ok I am considering getting brave here. I have never use my Makita 9227 on a finish yet. I am considering the option of using this tonight or tomorrow on my truck for the first time.

Would this be wise?


I am very leary about this but think it's time I took the plunge here.

Why?

I'd just stick to your original plan. Layer on the products for the winter. Next spring after winter washing start over. Perhaps then use the 9227 to remove the scratches instilled during the winter months. Unless you plan to polish all winter too. This way you'll be all set for cruisin next summer.

As for your original question...

#9 is an older product that appears to have more polish oils than #82. I think #9 was quite useful for SS paint. #82 was rolled out with the newer more up to date 80 series line. This is mostly speculation on my part.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by scrub
Why?

I'd just stick to your original plan. Layer on the products for the winter. Next spring after winter washing start over. Perhaps then use the 9227 to remove the scratches instilled during the winter months. Unless you plan to polish all winter too. This way you'll be all set for cruisin next summer.

As for your original question...

#9 is an older product that appears to have more polish oils than #82. I think #9 was quite useful for SS paint. #82 was rolled out with the newer more up to date 80 series line. This is mostly speculation on my part.

I just figure this might make for a good opportunity to get my feet wet on the Rotary, as I am going to polish anyway. I may polish a time or 2 during the winter if the forecast looks like we will have a few warm days back to back where I will be able to polish and still have time to get some wax back on it.

I figure using the Rotary right now will get me over the intial fear of using it. That way come spring I will have more confidence in my using it.

I guess what I could do is use the Rotary with the #82 tonight then tomorrow use #9 with the PC to remove any marks I "may" put on the finish.

I have not decided 100% on using the rotary, That will depend on the outcome of any discussion from this thread. I won;t be getting start for another 3-4 hours anyway.

[scrub]

Good luck. No time like the present. I'd stick with the 9006 pad.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by scrub
Good luck. No time like the present. I'd stick with the 9006 pad.

I figured the 9006 will be a little more forgiving for a first attempt.

I may just run with this. Hopefully by the time I get to work and get squared away and get ready to roll there will be a few more posts here to help me have better confidence that I am making the right decision.

I have been dying to play with the rotary but have been scared. I think I need to go ahead and get over this and by using these products which are not very agressive anyway, I figure this might be a good time to do this. I don't think it would be wise for me to try #80 or #83 for my first effort. At least not on my truck.

Thanks for the feedback. I am sure there will be more before I get rolling.

[SpoiledMan]

I wouldn't make a $3X,XXX truck my learning tool. I think I remember you saying that you had a beater at your disposal? Practice on that where you have NOTHING to lose.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by SpoiledMan
I wouldn't make a $3X,XXX truck my learning tool. I think I remember you saying that you had a beater at your disposal? Practice on that where you have NOTHING to lose.

Been having a hard time making time for the beater as it needs to be washed then cleaned then clayed.

For my truck I need to to some minor swirl reduction so I figured this might be a good opportunity.

I have not sold myself on this as yet though.

[Pete-FWA]

Originally posted by Jeff Smith
Ok I am considering getting brave here. I have never use my Makita 9227 on a finish yet.


I am very leary about this but think it's time I took the plunge here.

By all means, Jeff, give it a shot. I know it's your truck, so you'll be careful. Really, for someone as careful and detail oriented as you sound, it's not nearly as difficult as some people might make it out to be.

Are you worried about ruining the paint? You sound like one of those who will say to yourself, "Why did I worry so much?" after you get started and get some results. Don't think too hard...just give it a shot.

Do I remember reading somewhere that you have M03 Machine Glaze? Start with that and a W9000/9006 pad just to get a feel for it on your truck. That's the least aggressive method I can imagine. At worst, you will sling some product and not see much difference on your paint. Where's that Geo...didn't you have a beater to practice on?

Give it shot....you'll do fine with it!

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by Pete-FWA
By all means, Jeff, give it a shot. I know it's your truck, so you'll be careful. Really, for someone as careful and detail oriented as you sound, it's not nearly as difficult as some people might make it out to be.

Are you worried about ruining the paint? You sound like one of those who will say to yourself, "Why did I worry so much?" after you get started and get some results. Don't think too hard...just give it a shot.

Do I remember reading somewhere that you have M03 Machine Glaze? Start with that and a W9000/9006 pad just to get a feel for it on your truck. That's the least aggressive method I can imagine. At worst, you will sling some product and not see much difference on your paint. Where's that Geo...didn't you have a beater to practice on?

Give it shot....you'll do fine with it!

Yep, the Geo is still here but I figre as I need to do a little swirl reduction on the truck and this might be a good opportunity to take a stab at it.

[Pete-FWA]

Good idea-you keep the Honda so nice that it would be easier to get great results on it, rather than on a rougher finish

Just do it, you'll be glad you made the move

[Jeff Smith]

BTW, Yes I do have to #03 and was plannng on using that after the #82.

I really don't have any headache with going straight to the #82 tonight. I am sure, even if I do flub something up that it will be easily correctable. I do have alot of plastic to sweat so I'll make sure to do all the metal first until I get a feel for it. I do totally understand the need to keep moving at all times, especially on the plastic.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by Jeff Smith
BTW, Yes I do have to #03 and was plannng on using that after the #82.

I really don't have any headache with going straight to the #82 tonight. I am sure, even if I do flub something up that it will be easily correctable. I do have alot of plastic to sweat so I'll make sure to do all the metal first until I get a feel for it. I do totally understand the need to keep moving at all times, especially on the plastic.

Well Looks like the weather is cooperating a little. Temps predicted tonight to remain above 40 with no wind chill. I won't be starting for another 2 hours, if at all, and will re-evaluate the weather again then.

Not the best conditions but I have to take advantage of whatever time I can fit this in as I really was not planning on getting into this this year.

Right now it looks like I am going to hit it with the Rotary using #82 on a 9006 pad. I'll likely hold there until tomoorrow and thn re-evaluate where to go from there. I can either move up to #80 with the Rotary again or drop down to #09 with the Rotary or PC. Likely the PC.

It seems that #82 is said to show it's best results when used with the Rotary. Does #09 show it's best results when used with the PC? Just curious.