Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

[kaisergrendel]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

This may not be a fair comparison, but I am curious on the differences - how does this compare to Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner?

I'd like to know this too. Both are iron decontaminators in a gel preparation.

[xantonin]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

This may not be a fair comparison, but I am curious on the differences - how does this compare to Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner?

[Nick Winn]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Thanks!!! Is it better to spray on dry paint and wheels or wet?

I would agree with HCAD's recommendation below, regarding whether to use on dry or wet paint.

After our first couple of weeks in use, I'm convinced this product is on par with our previous iron (X) decontaminator, and priced better. Thanks for filling another spot in the detailing arsenal.


parker, I'd add that in most cases you'll use this on a wet car, after all you want to wash most of the dirt and debris off before applying the Iron Decon. Where I wouldn't dry the car before applying, it is beneficial to spray it on a surface that has drained itself of MOST of the rinse water after washing. If you apply it while the car is still flooding water off the surface you're likely to wash away a good portion of your Iron Decon. If you apply it to a bone dry area, just make sure that you don't allow the Iron Decon to dry while you're waiting for it to do its job.

So my answer is YES and NO.

Happy to hear!

[HCAD]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

After our first couple of weeks in use, I'm convinced this product is on par with our previous iron (X) decontaminator, and priced better. Thanks for filling another spot in the detailing arsenal.

Thanks!!! Is it better to spray on dry paint and wheels or wet?

parker, I'd add that in most cases you'll use this on a wet car, after all you want to wash most of the dirt and debris off before applying the Iron Decon. Where I wouldn't dry the car before applying, it is beneficial to spray it on a surface that has drained itself of MOST of the rinse water after washing. If you apply it while the car is still flooding water off the surface you're likely to wash away a good portion of your Iron Decon. If you apply it to a bone dry area, just make sure that you don't allow the Iron Decon to dry while you're waiting for it to do its job.

So my answer is YES and NO.

[parker23]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Thanks!!! Is it better to spray on dry paint and wheels or wet?

D1801 may compromise your existing wax to some extent, depending on whether it's a carnauba wax or a synthetic sealant, and how long ago it was applied (ie, how much is really still there). But since this product is generally used as part of a decontamination process prior to more extensive correction work, whether or not it will strip wax is usually not a major concern. Everything else you're going to be doing will take care of that!

Now, if you're asking because you want to strip wax as part of a full decon process prior to machine polishing, then the answer remains the same - it will likely compromise the existing wax at the very least. Again, since you're going to be doing other steps (claying is likely still needed as this product primarily attacks ferrous contaminants) then you'll be pretty effectively killing off that remaining wax/sealant.

If you happen to have a paint coating on the car, this will not knock it down.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Anyone else know if products like this generally remove some or all wax/sealant?

D1801 may compromise your existing wax to some extent, depending on whether it's a carnauba wax or a synthetic sealant, and how long ago it was applied (ie, how much is really still there). But since this product is generally used as part of a decontamination process prior to more extensive correction work, whether or not it will strip wax is usually not a major concern. Everything else you're going to be doing will take care of that!

Now, if you're asking because you want to strip wax as part of a full decon process prior to machine polishing, then the answer remains the same - it will likely compromise the existing wax at the very least. Again, since you're going to be doing other steps (claying is likely still needed as this product primarily attacks ferrous contaminants) then you'll be pretty effectively killing off that remaining wax/sealant.

If you happen to have a paint coating on the car, this will not knock it down.

[parker23]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Anyone else know if products like this generally remove some or all wax/sealant?

[parker23]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Here are a couple pictures from an upcoming video we filmed on this product! The white car below went from a light due of yellow to a crazy bright white! It was really impressive! The audi wheels at the bottom started turning purple before I could even finish spraying the entire wheel down!

Hi Nick - Is it safe to say this product removes all wax and sealant? Or is an IPA wipe down after second still recommended before applying sealant/wax? Thanks!!

[BillE]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Slide rule? EEEGH-that's how to make SOME folks really feel old! LOL!

Bill

[Old Bear]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Thanks Nick for the feedback.

PH scale goes from 0 to 14. Normally, we think of neutral as being 7.0. However, it is not wrong to have a range for that definition.
Distilled water has a PH of 7.0, salt water 8.0, milk and saliva are about 6.3.
So milk is the stuff in milk shakes that I readily put into my tummy.
That saliva stuff is what the pretty girls used to leave on my cheek when she kissed it.
OK, I can be pretty neutral on that.

Thanks for the update, I did look for my slide rule in case we needed it. I think it must be stored in the same place as my youth.

[Nick Winn]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Looking for clarification.

• pH balanced, safe on all wheels & painted brake components

However, the first ingredient on the label is Acetic Acid. This is also the acid commonly found in vinegar.
Based on the molarity of the acetic acid, it can go form a substantial acid to a very watered down state near water.
Since my polished alloy rims can tarnish with acid, could you provide the PH of this new product?

Hi Gale,

We would not say it is safe on all wheels & painted brake components if we were not confident in that statement : ). The pH is 6.3 - 7. Keep in mind all the typical recommendations when using wheel cleaners. Use on a cool to the touch wheel, work on one wheel at a time, do not let the product dry on the wheel, & rinse thoroughly.

[Old Bear]

Re: Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Looking for clarification.

• pH balanced, safe on all wheels & painted brake components

However, the first ingredient on the label is Acetic Acid. This is also the acid commonly found in vinegar.
Based on the molarity of the acetic acid, it can go form a substantial acid to a very watered down state near water.
Since my polished alloy rims can tarnish with acid, could you provide the PH of this new product?

[Nick Winn]

Re: Meguiar's Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

When will this be available for purchase? Do you use it straight out of the gallon or will it be diluted?

Meguiar's Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON is showing up on some online detail product websites. Two that I checked have estimated ship dates of 30 Nov 2018 for the one gallon size. Check with your favorite provider for their availability.

The product specific screen printed secondary 32 oz refillable bottle appeared on one site with a Dec 16 estimated ship date.

To keep the viscosity the same, I doubt it will be a concentrate.
In Nick Winn's original post for this thread, he mentions:

• Clings to wheels to remove road grime, grease & iron
• Viscosity tuned for effective distribution over entire vehicle panels, while also clinging to wheels for deep cleaning

To keep the viscosity the same, I doubt it will be a concentrate.

Meguiar's D1801 Professional Wheel & Paint Iron Decon is RTU (Ready to use) and not a concentrate.

[Old Bear]

Re: Meguiar's Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

Meguiar's Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON is showing up on some online detail product websites. Two that I checked have estimated ship dates of 30 Nov 2018 for the one gallon size. Check with your favorite provider for their availability.

The product specific screen printed secondary 32 oz refillable bottle appeared on one site with a Dec 16 estimated ship date.

To keep the viscosity the same, I doubt it will be a concentrate.
In Nick Winn's original post for this thread, he mentions:

• Clings to wheels to remove road grime, grease & iron
• Viscosity tuned for effective distribution over entire vehicle panels, while also clinging to wheels for deep cleaning

To keep the viscosity the same, I doubt it will be a concentrate.

[wht4drfa5]

Re: Meguiar's Professional Wheel & Paint IRON DECON

When will this be available for purchase? Do you use it straight out of the gallon or will it be diluted?