Xtra Cut Microfiber Discs

[C. Charles Hahn]

Re: Xtra Cut Microfiber Discs

More cut vs faster cut is sort of a matter of semantics, isn't it?

As to the issue of potential heat, yes, there can be more and this is definitely taking the aggressiveness of the DA buffer up yet another notch. But as long as you're not leaning on the darn things, we aren't really seeing any more heat at the backing plate/pad interface than we do with the red foamed cutting discs.

Now, as we all know, the more the aggressiveness goes up, the more safety comes down - at least to some degree. So, yes, you'll want to be a bit more cautious on sharp body creases and older, thinner paint. As with everything else in this process, common sense goes a long way. Charles, you bring up a very interesting and astute point - having played with these pads a fair bit (and they do indeed cut like crazy on very hard paint) with an without a foam interface pad between it and the backing plate, I can tell you that you can indeed do a bit of "tuning" if you so desire. You will, however, notice an immediate reduction in cut by placing an interface pad into the mix.

That's sort of what I was thinking/hoping; with the variety of interface pads available from different sources made of different materials, it introduces a new variable to dial in cutting ability -- potentially even making them less aggressive than the MF finishing pads if the interface is thick and soft enough. Might even make the regular MF cutting and finishing pads unnecessary, if alternative interfaces work as well as I'm envisioning. Definitely something I'll be playing with as soon as I can get my hands on a few of these pads.

[davey g-force]

Re: Xtra Cut Microfiber Discs

Brilliant! These will be great when things need to get really aggressive

[Meticulous-Detail]

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Good stuff, can't wait to try these out.

[Michael Stoops]

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Thinking about how M105 would work on those.

No need to hide, we know people love M105, M101 and M100 on microfiber pads. And, yes, M100 is just a defect cutting demon on these.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Xtra Cut Microfiber Discs

More cut vs faster cut is sort of a matter of semantics, isn't it?

As to the issue of potential heat, yes, there can be more and this is definitely taking the aggressiveness of the DA buffer up yet another notch. But as long as you're not leaning on the darn things, we aren't really seeing any more heat at the backing plate/pad interface than we do with the red foamed cutting discs.

Now, as we all know, the more the aggressiveness goes up, the more safety comes down - at least to some degree. So, yes, you'll want to be a bit more cautious on sharp body creases and older, thinner paint. As with everything else in this process, common sense goes a long way. Charles, you bring up a very interesting and astute point - having played with these pads a fair bit (and they do indeed cut like crazy on very hard paint) with an without a foam interface pad between it and the backing plate, I can tell you that you can indeed do a bit of "tuning" if you so desire. You will, however, notice an immediate reduction in cut by placing an interface pad into the mix.

[C. Charles Hahn]

Re: Xtra Cut Microfiber Discs

Mike,
I assume this pad will also generate a lot more heat and folks trying this for the first time should be aware of that.

Agreed; I also wonder about delamination issues due to heat, and the possibility of welding the pad to the backing plate -- especially if they are used with a non-Meguiar's plate (e.g. Rupes polishers).

Interesting concept though, might even allow for tuning performance by adding one or more sanding interface pads between this and the backing plate.

[STRIFE]

Re: Xtra Cut Microfiber Discs

Sounds like these pads are designed to cut faster, not necessarily cut more than the original cutting pads....so just a time saver for the pro detailers?
Will these be available in 3" versions...seems to make sense?

[RDVT4ME]

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Mike,
I assume this pad will also generate a lot more heat and folks trying this for the first time should be aware of that.

[jankerson]

Re: Xtra Cut Microfiber Discs

Thinking about how M105 would work on those.

[RDVT4ME]

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Mike,
That looks like the test MF disks without the interface pad.

[Michael Stoops]

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What color is the foam on these disc? Just curious since the MF cutting disc are red to match the compound and the MF finishing disc are black to match the wax.

A great question. There is no foam on these, other than the very slight amount of cushion provided by the loop backing. In the image below you see the current red foamed DMC5 Cutting Disc on the left, and the new DMX5 Xtra Cut Disc on the right. By taking out the foam we allow for even more transfer of energy directly from the tool to the paint. What our testing has shown is a 20-25% increase in cut over the DMC cutting disc.

[jvs1991]

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Nice, good when you need that extra bite from d300.

[greg0303]

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Cool, we can get even more cut out of microfiber, if needed.

[C8N]

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Recommended backing plate?

[jankerson]

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Still need to get around to trying the MF discs one day.