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  • STRIFE
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    I just ordered a can from AG!!!!!!! Cannot wait to try it!!!

    Sonax Polymer Net Shield 340 ml. - Not sure if you'll like it? See what Mike Phillips has to say about itHERE!Aerosol-based polymer sealant makes paint protection quick and easy! Sonax Polymer Net Shield is a cutting-edge aerosol-based spray sealant ...

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  • ffboy
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    Yup, brake dust is terrible with german cars. This would come in real handy! And you don't have to drive too far to get a sufficient amount of dust on the wheels. Imagine the dust that get trapped on more complex wheels like on e34 bmw's that are a real pain to get off when allowed to bake in for some reason. I would love to have this.. even on euro focus, which also dusts alot i think the bmw's brakes and the euro focus's brakes are from the same manufacturer. ATe i think.. i think both use NAO pads.

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  • Michael Stoops
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    It would offer paint protection in the sense that it's really hard for anything to stick to it. It doesn't offer any UV protection, nor does it provide any sort of scratch resistance. So, yes, there is protection in a sense.

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  • Buck91
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    I don't even have any interest in using this for any "black label" purposes but the answers provided here still beg the question "Given proper application, would this product offer potential as a paint protection?"

    Sorry just devil advocating... Seems you've been pretty clear thats not the design nor intent.

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  • Marc08EX
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    Thanks Mike.

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  • Michael Stoops
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    Well, if a product is designed to be sprayed on then there are certain "carrier ingredients" that allow it to perform properly. Those same ingredients may not work so well if you were to try to wipe it on. The product hasn't been tested for that sort of application because it's just not intended to be used that way. When a product is designed to be wiped on, like our M188 Deep Crystal Coating that we offer in the Asia-Pacific market, or products like Opti-Coat and similar coatings, that wipe on process is part of the design of the product so it is formulated to self level. That same consideration isn't necessarily given to a spray on product as the delivery of product to surface is vastly different.

    Again, we do not recommend using the product in this way and will discourage people from doing so.

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  • Marc08EX
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    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    While in theory there may be some merit to this, the real problem would come from the sprayer on the bottle. It was chosen to give a fairly narrow spray pattern so that it's easier to control when spraying onto wheels. If you tried to lay this down uniformly and evenly over a flat area the size of a hood, or even a fender, odds are with that spray pattern you'd end up seeing some banding or other unevenness. Then there are issues with proper paint prep prior to applying something like this, overspray issues on trim, etc. Sure, you might find a few guys out there with the skill to lay down a nice, uniform coating on the whole car with this sprayer, but for the vast majority of people it would be an exercise in frustration culminating in phone calls to our CCC asking for a way to take it all off. We wouldn't be shocked to find someone experimenting with this, but we highly discourage anyone from attempting it.
    So if the problem is in the application, then maybe one can try spraying the chemical in a foam applicator pad and then apply it to the paint? If one applies this very thinly then it should evaporate rather quickly. I'm sure users will be conscious of this because of the possible "high spots".

    Interesting.......

    Thanks so much for your response Mike!

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  • Michael Stoops
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    Originally posted by Marc08EX View Post
    Based on this statement, why can't we just use this product on our paint? Sorry if it sounds like a very stupid question since its intended application is for the wheels. This might not add gloss to the paint but if the paint is properly polished and prepped then there's really no need for an additional gloss. If this product can withstand the heat from the brakes of the car (when waxes can't) then it should last forever when exposed under the sun. If you want to add more gloss then top it off with UQW or something.

    This sounds like a non-permanent opti-coat.
    While in theory there may be some merit to this, the real problem would come from the sprayer on the bottle. It was chosen to give a fairly narrow spray pattern so that it's easier to control when spraying onto wheels. If you tried to lay this down uniformly and evenly over a flat area the size of a hood, or even a fender, odds are with that spray pattern you'd end up seeing some banding or other unevenness. Then there are issues with proper paint prep prior to applying something like this, overspray issues on trim, etc. Sure, you might find a few guys out there with the skill to lay down a nice, uniform coating on the whole car with this sprayer, but for the vast majority of people it would be an exercise in frustration culminating in phone calls to our CCC asking for a way to take it all off. We wouldn't be shocked to find someone experimenting with this, but we highly discourage anyone from attempting it.

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  • Michael Stoops
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    Originally posted by PhantomMagician View Post
    So no need for MAG and aluminum polish to protect the wheel after using this ?
    if i use it, what should i apply first ? thanks Mike
    Well, Mag & Alum Polish doesn't offer any protection, it just brings the shine back to dulled bare aluminum. So you'd want to use that first to restore the original appearance of the wheel, then coat it with Hot Rims Brake Dust Barrier for protection and easy clean up next time around.

    Originally posted by wifpd4 View Post
    This product becomes available mid winter. I pull the car inside, remove the wheels, clean them, make sure they are room temperature, coat them, and reinstall them. What is the drying (curing?) time of the Barrier before I head back out into the snow, ice and salt? Or is the Barrier more of a spring, summer, and fall product for those of us in the winter wonderland?
    Sounds like a great plan, David, and the product dries in a matter of minutes. If you pull all four wheels off at the same time, clean 'em all up and coat them with this, you should be just fine to install them on the car right away. It will be dry by the time you put things away and/or the customer arrives to take delivery.

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  • wifpd4
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    This product becomes available mid winter. I pull the car inside, remove the wheels, clean them, make sure they are room temperature, coat them, and reinstall them. What is the drying (curing?) time of the Barrier before I head back out into the snow, ice and salt? Or is the Barrier more of a spring, summer, and fall product for those of us in the winter wonderland?
    Last edited by wifpd4; Nov 11, 2011, 10:26 AM. Reason: Typo

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  • STRIFE
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    ^ lol....I have 2 friends who recently picked up new M3s......i'll be sure to tell them about this product

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  • imz4n
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    Looks like something to add to the lineup, BMW'S enough said. LOL

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  • Alfisti
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    Opti Coat lasts forever on wheels.

    I've retired my Michelin wheel coating.

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  • PhantomMagician
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    So no need for MAG and aluminum polish to protect the wheel after using this ?
    if i use it, what should i apply first ? thanks Mike

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  • davey g-force
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    ^^ Yes, I was thinking the same thing..

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