Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Quick question. Does this contain "petroleum distillates"?

I am asking this question because I have a two-layer laminated wrap on my car. The first layer is KPMF Satin Car Wrap Film laminated to a second layer of 3M 8518 Overlaminate Gloss to add a layer of gloss and protection.

A friend of mine who has Expel on his car say that you should never put a product containing "petroleum distillates" (e.g. Meguiar's Cleaner Wax, Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax - Recommended by the Meguiar's Help Line for a Wrap) on a wrapped surface or at least Expel. He says that if you put "petroleum distillates" on a wrapped surface it will result in the wrap or at least Expel "yellowing" over time.

Since I just spent what is a lot of money for me to have this done to my vehicle to have a color I like and a protected surface, I don't want have the surface over "yellowing" over time. My friend who does use Meguiar's products (M205 & M26) for his painted surfaces, uses CarPro Reload (an SI02 product like HCW) after washing and for daily care a California Duster and Ultimate Quick Detailer (Whatever happened to M135).

I have moved to UWWA as my Quick Detailer and so would like to continue to use it for that purpose on my wrapped car also. It's label does not say "contains petroleum distillates", but I want to make sure. If it would result in the my "wrapped surfaces" "yellowing" over time I will move back to using Ultimate Quick Detailer as my friend does or perhaps Last Touch Spray Detailer, D155.

Thank you for answering this question.

So this is, what, the third thread you've asked the exact same question in? Wow, that friend of yours really got to you, didn't he? It's a common belief that things like petroleum distillates and silicones are the potential death of automotive surface care. Any and all of our paint protection products are perfectly safe to use on vinyl wraps, PPF, and many are even perfectly safe and effective on matte paint. Obviously you'll want to steer clear of most liquid and paste waxes on almost any film just because it's often tricky, if not downright impossible, to get an even appearance with those products on those surfaces. You absolutely do NOT want to use liquid or paste waxes on matte finishes. But whether paint or vinyl, matte or gloss, any of our spray on waxes and quick detailers are perfectly safe and effective. That you've chose UWWA as your go to on the new wrap on your car is actually a very smart idea, and likely the smartest choice of them all since it cleans very effectively, and leaves great polymer protection without any damaging side effects.

[Nick Winn]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Quick question. Does this contain "petroleum distillates"?

I am asking this question because I have a two-layer laminated wrap on my car. The first layer is KPMF Satin Car Wrap Film laminated to a second layer of 3M 8518 Overlaminate Gloss to add a layer of gloss and protection.

A friend of mine who has Expel on his car say that you should never put a product containing "petroleum distillates" (e.g. Meguiar's Cleaner Wax, Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax - Recommended by the Meguiar's Help Line for a Wrap) on a wrapped surface or at least Expel. He says that if you put "petroleum distillates" on a wrapped surface it will result in the wrap or at least Expel "yellowing" over time.

Since I just spent what is a lot of money for me to have this done to my vehicle to have a color I like and a protected surface, I don't want have the surface over "yellowing" over time. My friend who does use Meguiar's products (M205 & M26) for his painted surfaces, uses CarPro Reload (an SI02 product like HCW) after washing and for daily care a California Duster and Ultimate Quick Detailer (Whatever happened to M135).

I have moved to UWWA as my Quick Detailer and so would like to continue to use it for that purpose on my wrapped car also. It's label does not say "contains petroleum distillates", but I want to make sure. If it would result in the my "wrapped surfaces" "yellowing" over time I will move back to using Ultimate Quick Detailer as my friend does or perhaps Last Touch Spray Detailer, D155.

Thank you for answering this question.

I am not seeing anything about Petroleum Distillates for our G3626.

[510GUY]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Quick question. Does this contain "petroleum distillates"?

I am asking this question because I have a two-layer laminated wrap on my car. The first layer is KPMF Satin Car Wrap Film laminated to a second layer of 3M 8518 Overlaminate Gloss to add a layer of gloss and protection.

A friend of mine who has Expel on his car say that you should never put a product containing "petroleum distillates" (e.g. Meguiar's Cleaner Wax, Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax - Recommended by the Meguiar's Help Line for a Wrap) on a wrapped surface or at least Expel. He says that if you put "petroleum distillates" on a wrapped surface it will result in the wrap or at least Expel "yellowing" over time.

Since I just spent what is a lot of money for me to have this done to my vehicle to have a color I like and a protected surface, I don't want have the surface over "yellowing" over time. My friend who does use Meguiar's products (M205 & M26) for his painted surfaces, uses CarPro Reload (an SI02 product like HCW) after washing and for daily care a California Duster and Ultimate Quick Detailer (Whatever happened to M135).

I have moved to UWWA as my Quick Detailer and so would like to continue to use it for that purpose on my wrapped car also. It's label does not say "contains petroleum distillates", but I want to make sure. If it would result in the my "wrapped surfaces" "yellowing" over time I will move back to using Ultimate Quick Detailer as my friend does or perhaps Last Touch Spray Detailer, D155.

Thank you for answering this question.

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Yes it would.

And it's clear now

[Top Gear]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

^ Eldorado, your mailbox is full, btw...

Yeah, the 32oz might tempt me, with some distilled water to mix it (to match UWWA) and mixed in the UWWA bottle. Even the sampler would last me years

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Mmm, I don't think the color of the liquid would make a difference to be honest.. But you know the placebo effect can sometimes work wonderslol.

As far as D115 goes, it's about as safe of a bet as it goes. I should've bought another gallon while it was available at such a great price. Now that site is out of stock on it and who knows if it'll be at that sweet price once they get more in stock. But I think they still have the 32oz. concentrate for $20.

[Top Gear]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

LOL I'm pretty sure I've never bought more than 3 bottles of GCQW in 3 years, and that third bottle is about to run out just now. I'm now using it, as well as GCQD, a good bit less frequently since adding UWWA, as well as re-waxing by DA more frequently. But still, I guess I'm just giving any of these sprays a small finger pump and then wiping at least twice the area per spray, using the moisture immediately collected in the towel (remember the humidity difference, too). This is after using the duster, usually.

Except for a dirty spot, or recently when I tested UWWA after a rain drive, I never really douse the surface with UWWA (as seen in videos) or spray more than once or twice per wipe - that only saturates the towel and starts streaking (yes, even UWWA). So, I can do the whole car with either UWWA or GCQW with 1 towel each and at the end the towels will be maybe half dry (UWWA) or almost fully dry (GCQW). Although with GCQW, I'm spraying more product now but re-waxing with it less frequently, because of UWWA and monthly DA re-waxing, and because the SS towels are so damned good. I keep all of this maintenance merch in the trunk so I can do it anytime, but due to the heat, the GCQW bottle is blown up right now, lol, but the product is fine.

So, a gallon of D115 would last me many years, which is why I ask so many questions about this stuff before buying it. I hate being stuck with something I don't need.

Still, do you think D115 will be blueish vs UWWA for my D301 finish??

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Well if it works for you, then thumbsup.

I find it amazing that you've only used up a half bottle of UWWA so far. And if I remember correctly you stated that you're still working on the same couple or so bottles of GCQD for over a year now? How in the world do you do that?? I can sometimes go through half a bottle [16oz] of D115 if the vehicle is full on dirty.. Much less if it's quik wipedowns every couple of days of course, but still.

I just did a waterless on both the Kia and my dads Tacoma this morning and used a total of about 10-11oz. for both cars. When it comes to towels however, I normally never need anymore than 3 to get the job done. Usually 2 is good enough, not including the windows. I never understand how some people on other sites talk about needing a dozen or so towels to wipedown their car.. That's ridiculous lol.

[Top Gear]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

That depends, IMO. If you wax with UW (or the like), then use UWWA and UQW to maintain, then you might not see the subtle differences I see by waxing with D301, then using UWWA and GCQW to maintain.

UWWA/D115 is amazing, for sure, but after some period of regular upkeep UWWA is replacing my blueish dark carnauba-rich D301 finish with a silvery, glossy "Ultimate"-style finish and I don't like that. While UWWA has carnauba in it, it's a pretty minor ingredient. GCQW is necessary to at least maintain the carnauba, despite the fact that GCQW isn't bluish either.

Actually, Eldorado, while I haven't yet moved to D115 from UWWA as you've recommended (my first UWWA bottle is about half empty now), I do notice in your pictures D115 has a definite bluish tint. Maybe it's simple-minded, but I wonder if that will help maintain D301 over the white-ish UWWA?

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Are you saying there's a typo in Davey's post?^ I don't think there is. I think he meant to say that..

IMO UWWA is enough of a spray wax on its own and anything else on top of it would be, like Davey said, overkill/redundant.

[Top Gear]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

^^ I think that was a typo. UQW, not ULW. The question was basically "Should I follow UWWA with QW, and should I use two different QWs?"

My answer is yes to the first part. UWWA is, as far as I'm concerned, very much a "sealant" and not so much about the small amount of carnauba in it. Unless it's a quick touch-up, which is daily, I'll frequently follow UWWA with GCQW, because GCQW, while also being mixed with synthetic goodness, is the most carnauba we can get in a spray. UWWA has a silvery glossy look, and GCQW darkens it back a bit (I don't care for the super-silver-ultimate-glossy look as much).

My answer is no, that's redundant, to the second part.

[Eldorado2k]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

This^

With 1 small exception. I like to do a traditional bucket wash before applying a layer of liquid/paste wax. But that's just my OCD way of thinking

[davey g-force]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

You can do as much or as little as you like, but that's a bit too many steps, and one is in the wrong order.

You wouldn't apply a wax after a spray wax, but the other way around.

If anything you'd do this every week:
- UWWA
- GCQW (optional, and slight overkill)

Then once every few months, you'd go:
- UWWA
- ULW
- GCQW (optional, and slight overkill)

[Coldazice]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

The Detailer line Rinse Free Express Wash is a concentrate designed for use as a low water volume rinseless bucket wash. Rinse Free Express Wash also contains no wax at all. Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere is a ready to use spray that does contain a hydrophobic polymer for added protection. Think of it almost like a detail spray on steroids - if you've ever had a situation where you thought a QD may not be quite enough to remove the amount of dirt on your car so you're better off washing it, you could reach for this product and get the job done safely and effectively. If you live in an area where they salt the roads and from time to time you go to the coin op wash to pressure wash the road salt off your car, you know it doesn't get everything off completely. With this you can finish the job once you get home. Or if you live in an apartment and it's summer time, and your car has been outside for a few days and you want to clean it up but don't have time to go to a car wash (and you aren't allowed to bucket wash in your complex) you can clean your car with this product in just a bit longer than it would take to go over it with a traditional QD spray, even though the car is much too dirty for a traditional QD.

Hey Michael, thanks!

Would you recommend using a quik wax after using Wax and Wash?

Noob thinking. I'm trying to avoid scratching, swirls or what not. I was thinking of rinsing with water first, then the Wax and Wash, then maybe the Gold Class Quik Wax, and then Ultimate Liquid Wax.

Good idea or no?

[Top Gear]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Ah yes, not as slick, then, more traction, even when dry. UWWA seems like more of a gel coating, somehow. We'll see how it weathers the next rain storm.