Ultimate Wax

[Michael Stoops]

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Mike Stoops Hi .... I have a question for you today which is inspired by your post here ... #149. (page 15)

My apologies for not responding to this sooner - it's been a couple of very crazy weeks around here!!!

OK ... soooooooo ..... In your post #149 you mentioned how that M80 offers more in the way of moisture for the paint ... as you have said ... "M80 is an oil rich product". So my question is, if I am working on a neglected, very dry car (clear coat paint .... which I would clay first) should I first use M80 .... and then begin the DA Correction System process? I wonder if perhaps by putting moisture in the paint first with M80, if this might make the use of the DA Correction system more effective in such a situation as mine?

If the paint is very dry due to neglect, then using some M80 or even M07 might help the situation. But if the paint is otherwise healthy and it's just your environment that is dry, it likely won't do much of anything for you.

As a final step in my detailing process, I am thinking about using the your new Ultimate Wax which is why I am posting here today ...... from what I have read here UW might be a very good way to extend paint protection out here in the desert?

While Ultimate Wax is our longest lasting, best protecting wax, the conditions in Mojave are very extreme to say the least. We've shot more than one commercial or print ad out there and it can be tough just visiting the area, let alone living there year round! Yes, we would recommend Ultimate Wax in your area, but we'd also recommend applying it more frequently than we might in other parts of the country.

[bigdog194]

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The New Ultimate Wax (Paste) is the best wax I have ever used on my truck since the NXT 2.0 Wax. Even in High Heat it still wipes off like butter and leaves an outstanding look that really brings up the shine in my truck's paint. In a way it seems to me that it is not all that different from the application of the NXT 2.0 Wax from Meguiars.

[blue-sun]

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I detailed 2 black cars here in IL yesterday in high 95+ weather (medium humidity) and I had a hell of a time with streaking on the 2nd car ("new" 2011 Mustang Shelby GT500) and I have to say that I'm very disappointed about it. This is the 4th or 5th car I've done with UW and I've yet to have this bad of a streaking problem. I've seen some mild light streaking on the hood when I do that panel first with a dry pad, but this was very intense. (Pics are still on my camera,will have pics and a thread tonight)

I told the client that if the steaking doesn't go away in 2 days, to let me know and I would come back and try to fix it. I know I've read about uneven application causes streaking, but I've used the same process that I've always used and I've never had streaking this badly. It honestly makes me not want to switch to UW as my "go to" sealant.

[Marc08EX]

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I detailed 2 black cars here in IL yesterday in high 95+ weather (medium humidity) and I had a hell of a time with streaking on the 2nd car ("new" 2011 Mustang Shelby GT500) and I have to say that I'm very disappointed about it. This is the 4th or 5th car I've done with UW and I've yet to have this bad of a streaking problem. I've seen some mild light streaking on the hood when I do that panel first with a dry pad, but this was very intense. (Pics are still on my camera,will have pics and a thread tonight)

I told the client that if the steaking doesn't go away in 2 days, to let me know and I would come back and try to fix it. I know I've read about uneven application causes streaking, but I've used the same process that I've always used and I've never had streaking this badly. It honestly makes me not want to switch to UW as my "go to" sealant.

Are you using the liquid or the paste version?

If you're using the liquid version, try misting the streaked area with a very light spritz of water and wipe it off. This should eliminate any streaking that was left behind.

Please let us know how that works out.

[blue-sun]

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I am using liquid. I tried to spritz with both Meguiar's QD (red bottle) and a ONR mixture of QD (6 cap fulls of ONR in 1 gallon of distilled water) and nothing worked.

[Alfisti]

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This may not seem helpful at the moment but in future, consider the paste version. It never streaks for me, even on black. The only down side is that it's not as trim-friendly as the liquid version. I think UW paste is the best wax Megs has ever made.

[blue-sun]

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I may consider that, but this is starting to remind me of Klasse's Sealant Glaze, which can be very tempermental on how you apply it.

[Alfisti]

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The paste is not temperamental.

[CRACKERVOL]

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Just tried the ultimate on my Ranger. ( my daily driver ) Did the paste first, a week later did a layer of the liquid. I LOVE IT. Both were easy on esy off. One thing I love is.....It doesn't get as dirty even in the rain. (???) Another reason why I converted from carnuba to synthetic. Next comes the tank & fenders of my Harley.

[gtrspeed]

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I finally got around to trying out ULW on my car (Hyundai Elantra) this weekend using my G110v2 and SB2.0 finishing pads. I started off by washing the car thoroughly (is there any other way?), drying, inspecting the paint (no clay needed), and then applying UW. After allowing the first coat to cure for eight hours, I wiped the car down with Last Touch to remove any dust (car is kept outside), and applied a second coat, attempting to adjust my technique a bit. I can definitely see why some folks are having difficulty working with the liquid version. My car is a dark metallic gray, which made it extremely difficult to identify where I had and had not applied UW, even with plenty of light. Looking very closely at the car, the areas where I had applied wax appeared just a shade darker, but there was no noticeable haze. Doing the swipe test was pretty darn difficult, so I ended up removing the wax a bit too soon, resulting in streaking in some places. In the spots that it had completely dried, I could barely tell the difference between where I had and had not removed wax. Also, while I tried my best to work a thin, even coat over the surface, there were a few places where I left a thick layer of wax, which was quite difficult to remove, even with the help of some UQD.

As for the car's appearance after waxing, well, it's hard to say. I would have liked to do a test spot to compare it to the NXT I've been using on various cars for the past couple years, but I was running out of sunlight (and the humidity was rapidly going up). My very subjective opinion is that the UW brought out a slightly darker shine than NXT, but without doing that test spot, it's impossible to say for sure. I definitely appreciated not having to worry about staining the trim - in the few spots where I did accidentally overlap the trim, the UW turned it a nice, shiny black, much like UP.

Overall, this is the first Meg's product that I'm not completely happy with. I'll certainly take the blame for operator error and would welcome any suggestions for improving my technique, but given the success I've had with NXT2.0 in the past, and its ease of application, I'll probably be going back to that.

[gtrspeed]

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And... Went out just now to take a look at the car, and a bunch of streaking has appeared on the vertical surfaces of the body. These were definitely not there last night, and it didn't rain. A quick UQD wipedown removed them. Weird.

[OBSSEST]

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I've been frustrated with the liquid Ultimate Wax lately as well. The streaking on a black car just doesn't allow me to have any satisfaction after wiping it off. I have tried letting it dry overnight, as well, and the stuff still doesn't fully dry, leaving a residue in areas even after wiping repeatedly. I had even gone over the car with a detail spray and it seems to take alot of pressure with a towel to get the UW entirely off. After the first wash the streaks seem to disappear but that seems like alot of hassle.

I'm thinking I'm going back to the NXT 2.0. I sure hope NXT isn't getting phased out due to the new ultimate products.

[Alfisti]

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Please don't give up on UW altogether. Maybe call customer service and tell them of your issues and ask them to swap it with UW paste. You won't be dissapointed. No streaking and makes black look jet-black, deep and super-glossy. NXT2 doesn't compare on black IMHO.

I have both on my wife's black car to compare, and NXT still has that slight silvery hue that sealants impart, whereas UW paste is pure black super-gloss.

[Michael Stoops]

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For anyone struggling with drying issues when using the liquid version of Ultimate Wax, we would like to reiterate that this issue is most easily remedied by wiping off the product sooner rather than later. We've said this many times, and our Quik Tips Video on UW even instructs this. So rather than wait an hour, or several hours, to wipe off the haze just apply the product to a panel or two and then wipe off after no more than 3 to 5 minutes. A thin coat is key, and if you've worked with the product you know that a little bit can go a very long way indeed. Not only that, but you can work it against the paint for quite some time - ie, continue stretching it over an increasingly large area to achieve a very thin coat.

With the paste version you should still apply to all painted surfaces of the vehicle and allow to dry as per usual.

[Merlin]

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Works for me!

The only time I have had an issue I used a VERY light mist of water on a MF towel and easily wiped 'em away.