Hey Mike.....Waters spots and a Forerunner

[inthedetails]

I detailed this Forerunner today. Of course Black *****, but.....

this picture shows the hood up close after #83, #80 and even some Scratch X



At least it looked good done...just don't get too close





Any suggestions for future jobs?

[Pete-FWA]

Did you clay the spotted areas?

Can you FEEL the spots or only see them?

[inthedetails]

Yes I clayed.....

Seen not felt.....

[Pete-FWA]

Those stains are etched in the paint then.

Removing them will require some kind of stronger compounding with a DA or rotary polisher. How did you apply #83? I'd go one step above that with a medium level compound to see if that removed them.

[rusty bumper]

I ran into an SUV like that this year. It took quite a few passes with a DACP/G100 combo to remove any water spot etching, but it got a vast majority of them off.

[inthedetails]

I used the #83 with the most abrasive pad. Any recommendations for the next stronger cut......Like isaid, I even tried scratch x by hand on it.

[rusty bumper]

Originally posted by inthedetails
I used the #83 with the most abrasive pad. Any recommendations for the next stronger cut......Like isaid, I even tried scratch x by hand on it.

That's about the strongest combo there is for use with a DA polisher, although I recommend a W8006 pad myself......How many passes did you make over the water spots?

[ViperArry]

inthedetails...

Your car does look amazing though.....

Seems like there is some kind of chalc on your paint....... you need to get this off the paint, but how?

Maybe with something like vinegar? (Don't know if it ruins your paint....)

Or it's indeed etched in with acid rain.......

Maybe Mike knows what to do... (bring in your vehicle at a detailing day @ Meguairs?)

[KFM2500HEMI]

You know, that looks exactly like what I am fighting with on my Wife's 4Runner. It is black also (a 2002). I tried #80 and then #83 yesterday applied by PC with 8006 pad. I was going to try some scratch-X, but after seeing your results I do not think I will do that. I guess I will just have to live with it unless I feel like learning or paying someone with a rotary to get more aggressive than I can with the PC.

[papi_Jay]

try Malco water spot remover compound - works wonders . Follow with #80 and a polishing pad , then your choice of product for final polish and finishing pad .

[Mike Phillips]

We had these same types of water spots on a Viper last weekend owned by forum member, hollywood9
It took a lot of passion, but we we're able to remove about 98% of the water spot etchings by hand using ScratchX.

We then remove all of them using M80 Speed Glaze with a W-8006 pad on the 5.0 setting; even this took some time, but they did come out. The owner went ahead and purchased both some #83 and some #80 to do the entire car.

We should see some before and after pictures in the future...

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9104

Plus I have some before and after shots of these from that clinic.

[inthedetails]

About the only thing I didn't try was Scratch X with the PC. I know you don't recommend it, as that was not how it is designed to be used, but I have done it without any major problems. (except removing it...which was mostly done by applying my next step #83) It is good have have a beater to experiment with.

One cool thing was after applying the Scratch X I went to change pads on the PC, there was smoke or steam in between the pad and the velcro. I guess there was some heat there huh?

So you think I am better off using Scratch X and more elbow than going to a more agressive PC product Mike?

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by inthedetails

So you think I am better off using Scratch X and more elbow than going to a more agressive PC product Mike?

If M83 with the dual action polisher isn't getting these defects out then it sounds like a job for the rotary buffer.

[Wingsof66]

Lot of work

I did a silver car, like that. It had apparantly some part of the body repainted, and they didn't mask the whole car.
Finally a combination of #84, #85 and W-7000 took care of it.
It took me 2 hours to remove about 95% of them, and it was a Ford Focus, so it was not the largest car.