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    Saab 93

    This is the first vehicle I have attempted a complete paint correction that is not mine. This vehicle is a former co-workers. He bought this vehicle pre-owned, the paint condition was an absolute mess. I agreed to detail it for him and these are the results.

    Washed two bucket method with Deep Crystal Car Wash
    Clayed all panels with Smooth Surface Clay Kit
    105 via rotary and 7207
    105 via PC and ADS Green LC pad
    205 Via PC and ADS Green LC pad
    2 coats of 26 applied by hand

    After having some success using the rotary on some salvage panels and what not this was the real first go on every panel. I found I had ALOT of difficulty on vertical panels. There was alot of buffer hop and the only way to control it was keeping my body against the machine. I realized I was having problems keeping the pad flat. I was using the w68 backing plate. The pad was primed and the highest speed setting I used was 3. The pad would grab at lower speeds. Any advice on how to combat this? More practice? The horizontal panels were cake to do with the rotary. Another issue I noticed was as I was wiping down some panels with a microfiber and UQD it started leaving little holograms is this normal? My friend was very happy with the results but I felt I could have done a better job. I need to improve my rotary technique and I need more patience. Thanks in advance, here are the before and afters:









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  • #2
    Re: Saab 93

    Looks great. I think 205 needs more of a finishing pad IMHO

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    • #3
      Re: Saab 93

      really nice work!

      Saab....Cool!

      i've never owned one,but they are cool.

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      • #4
        Re: Saab 93

        Hey there! Nice job on your first try outside of your own. You made some substantial correction to that paint job.

        I did a black Saab a few weeks ago that was a mid-90's model. I seem to remember it had soft paint. That said, I wonder if what you were saying about the microfiber leaving "holograms" behind was actually the microfiber just removing excess oils that were "filling" swirls or holograms that weren't removed in the buffing process; I noticed this with a Corvette I just finished wetsanding and buffing. I have seen really cheap microfibers mar really soft paints (after which I delegated them to cleaning windows and dashes), but not with the Meguiars microfibers (that were clean with no grit or particles stuck in the cloth). Next time you see that happen, try a few different towels and see if it happens again. Maybe try an ultra-plush Meguiars terry towel. I used to have a '97 S-10 that would scratch if you wiped your clean finger on the surface!

        I agree with the statement on finishing with the DA using M205 on a finishing pad because of the softer nature of the paint. I use speed 5 with a fair amount of pressure and get great results from that. Maybe it's the angle of the sun in your pictures or the filter you used, but it almost looks like it could have been a little darker and I think the pad choice could play a part in that. The polishing pads with the DA can cause micro-marring or a milky appearance on some really soft paints in my experience, but the finishing pad pretty much gets rid of that.

        I think you just need more practice with the rotary to get rid of buffer hop, plus getting the hang of the right amount of product to use. I never even touched a cutting pad until I had been doing rotary work for a whole summer on other people's cars. Polishing pads are more forgiving. M105 with a polishing pad can do a fair amount of correction on the rotary, so maybe you could try that on "customer" cars as you try to get the hang of the cutting pad.

        Great start!
        "Do the job right, or don't do it!" - Dad

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        • #5
          Re: Saab 93

          Thanks for the feedback. The microfiber I was using was relatively inexpensive. It is from pep boys. I originally planned to finish with 9006 pad but decided on the polishing pad to get more correction I wanted to make sure there were not holograms left in the finish. After the 205 and polishing pad I planned to end with 205 and the 9006 but ran out of time.

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          • #6
            Re: Saab 93

            Great work on the Saab. Huge improvement. Nice reflection pics.
            quality creates its own demand

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            • #7
              Re: Saab 93

              Great work, the 9-3 Aero is one of my favorite cars. That's a 2005 right?

              Saabs have pretty soft clear coats, but not super soft. I'm guessing what you thought was hologramming was actually polishing oils smearing. I used to use cheap microfibers on my 2004 9-3 Aero all the time without any marring, but the paint did tend to repel about 95% of any polishing oils that I tried to use, leaving hologram-like smears upon removal.
              To combat this, I started using a two-towel removal method.
              Take two MFs, folded in quarters. Use one side of one of them for initial product removal - this side of this towel will get loaded with product and not do a whole lot of removal after a panel or two. Use the opposite side of the same towel for a secondary wipedown - this side will start smearing when you're about half done with the car. Finally, you have the second towel to remove any smears left by the secondary wipedown, and all 8 sides to do it with, without loading up the towel and causing smearing. It seems like it would be more time consuming, but it's not because you're not constantly folding and unfolding your towels.

              Did you clean inside the roof rack mounts?
              If a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody there to record the event, how can you be certain that there was a tree or even a forest to begin with?

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              • #8
                Re: Saab 93

                Justin,

                I believe it is a 2005. It is a sweet ride and has some nice acceleration . Not sure what you mean by roof rack mounts, Don't think it had any mounts. Thanks for the input. I think I am going to relegate these microfibers to interior and glass. I

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                • #9
                  Re: Saab 93

                  Originally posted by JSIN151 View Post
                  Justin,

                  I believe it is a 2005. It is a sweet ride and has some nice acceleration . Not sure what you mean by roof rack mounts, Don't think it had any mounts. Thanks for the input. I think I am going to relegate these microfibers to interior and glass. I
                  Ohhhhh it has roof rack mounts. They're built right in and are one of my absolute favorite features of any car EVER.
                  In the last picture, look at the black gutter trim. See that little section that's about 3 1/2" long with the notch in it? It opens to reveal integrated roof rack mounts. It's PURE genius. Next time you're around that car, check it out.

                  You're right about the acceleration, those cars are a whole lot faster than people give them credit for, especially at highway speeds...65-90mph goes by awfully fast :-D

                  I miss my 9-3 Aero . I had a 2004, so it was a 6 speed instead of the 5 speed in the 2005s.
                  If a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody there to record the event, how can you be certain that there was a tree or even a forest to begin with?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Saab 93

                    Ah I see them now. Ha I didn't notce. My friend wants me to maintain it for him so next time I detail it I will take a look.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Saab 93

                      Originally posted by JSIN151 View Post
                      Ah I see them now. Ha I didn't notce. My friend wants me to maintain it for him so next time I detail it I will take a look.
                      Of course you didn't notice, that's the point . I'm telling you, it should be standard on all cars.
                      If a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody there to record the event, how can you be certain that there was a tree or even a forest to begin with?

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