Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

[Ivan Rajic]

Another Porsche for me and another bad case of a previous detailing job, but even worse than the last one I corrected. Finish looked and felt like they used #85 and wool for hours, maybe even steel wool.

Unfortunately I couldn't get it to 100% as I didn't want to polish too much, not knowing what was previously done on the soft paint, so here's what I did and the photos...

Wash: Meg's Gold Class, wheels got wheel brightener 4:1
Dry: Cali blade and meg's water magnet
Clayed with Meg's Smooth Surface clay

Polish:
Menzerna SIP | Meg's 7006 pad | Makita rotary @ 1500 RPM
Menzerna 106ff | Meg's 8006 pad | Makita rotary @ 1500 RPM
Menzerna 106ff | Meg's 8006 pad | PC random orbital @ speed 5
Klasse SG on top

Meg's Hyper Dressing on all exterior trim and wheel wells 2:1
Meg's NXT on tires
KSG on wheels
Mother's on exhaust tips

Interior:
Vacuumed everything
Meg's hyper dressing on all interior plastic/trim/vynil 2:1
Lexol on leather

Stoner IG on glass inside & out

Took a little over 9 hours


Photos: (first couple after shots were taken after SIP/7006 so some hazing and holograms were still present) I'm hoping to get a few whole car photos out in the sun tomorrow when the owner picks it up as snow is melting here and everything is wet.

Before:





After:

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

One thing I wanted to mention, in case Mike Phillips sees this by chance...

Mike, my question to you is regarding this post...http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/sho...74&postcount=6

I experienced that same swirling and scouring on this Porsche when I used either #83 and/or #80 with 8006, thus why I finished with 106ff and 8006 pad. I have used LC pads before, orange and white, with both #83 and #80, and got great results. As I only recently started using Meg's pads wanting to try them out, this was the first time I actually used #83 and/or #80 with the 8006 pad. I just have no clue why this would happen and was wondering if you can state any variables that could've been affected... basically, after the rotary/106ff/8006 step, I had a clear finish with one a coupe holograms so I wanted to finish with the PC, and #80/8006 and #83/8006 both "ruined" the finish on the PC/speed 5, while 106ff/8006 on PC/speed 5 finished it perfectly...

[CarbonBlack]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

that is one great looking black car!
Excellent job!

-nick

[J. A. Michaels]

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What a transformation. Great job on the Porsche. Looks better then new.

[TwinSport]

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Come on! That's a new car, isn't it?

Wow, that's just awesome mate, one of the best corrections I have ever seen.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

One thing I wanted to mention, in case Mike Phillips sees this by chance...

Mike, my question to you is regarding this post...http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/sho...74&postcount=6

I experienced that same swirling and scouring on this Porsche when I used either #83 and/or #80 with 8006,

Nice save!

How did the finish get so bad in the first place? Hope you educated him on how to maintain the show room shine you restored because if he goes back to doing whatever it was that he was doing to the paint in the past he's going to get what he had before you fixed it.

Most owners of cool cars don't want to hear they have to take ownership of the washing process because they don't want to wash the car, they just want to pay someone else to do it and thats where the swirls start, low quality washing jobs.

As for your question about hazing with M83 and M80 with a W-8006 pads, if this is happening on a paint system then from experience we would say the paint is probably fairly soft and easily scratches, or another way of saying this would be to say the paint is scratch-sensitive.

Did the initial swirls buff out easy?

When you come across this type of paint you need to go even less aggressive than the M83 or M80 as these are both pretty aggressive cleaner/polishes, instead finish off with M82 or M09 or even M66 which is a cleaner/wax but it offers very good cleaning or leveling action for swirl removal.

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

Nice save!

How did the finish get so bad in the first place? Hope you educated him on how to maintain the show room shine you restored because if he goes back to doing whatever it was that he was doing to the paint in the past he's going to get what he had before you fixed it.

Most owners of cool cars don't want to hear they have to take ownership of the washing process because they don't want to wash the car, they just want to pay someone else to do it and thats where the swirls start, low quality washing jobs.

As for your question about hazing with M83 and M80 with a W-8006 pads, if this is happening on a paint system then from experience we would say the paint is probably fairly soft and easily scratches, or another way of saying this would be to say the paint is scratch-sensitive.

Did the initial swirls buff out easy?

When you come across this type of paint you need to go even less aggressive than the M83 or M80 as these are both pretty aggressive cleaner/polishes, instead finish off with M82 or M09 or even M66 which is a cleaner/wax but it offers very good cleaning or leveling action for swirl removal.

Gotcha... the paint WAS extremely soft and I figured that's what it was... I think #82 is on a similar level of correction/finishing as the 106ff so I probably would've had different results.

Thanks for a quick reply.

[Hemin8r]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

Great job & great save.

[cnfowler]

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Beautiful work. It's a shame to see such a bad finish on a gorgeous car. At least the owner was smart enough to bring it to you!

[Tom Weed]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

I'll just throw in that #66 on soft paints, especially black ones works wonders on a finishing pad for a final polish.

Tom

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

I'll just throw in that #66 on soft paints, especially black ones works wonders on a finishing pad for a final polish.

Tom

I never used #66 but isn't that as aggressive as #80, or similar?

[Tom Weed]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

I never used #66 but isn't that as aggressive as #80, or similar?

Yes, it does have the same cut on the agressive scale, but after playing with several polishes on soft paint and a finishing pad, I find that 66 has less micromarring than I get with 82 and finishes out very nicely. Its either 66 or PolySeal for a final polish on black finishes for me. I think there are some articles somewhere on using 66 for this purpose.

Tom

[yalerd]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

That's a very nice save indeed.
That paint was in bad condition and you just brought it back to life

[Ivan Rajic]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

Yes, it does have the same cut on the agressive scale, but after playing with several polishes on soft paint and a finishing pad, I find that 66 has less micromarring than I get with 82 and finishes out very nicely. Its either 66 or PolySeal for a final polish on black finishes for me. I think there are some articles somewhere on using 66 for this purpose.

Tom

Gotcha. I don't have any #66 at the moment but will order some soon and see how good it actually is... I've been wanting to get some for a while anyway just never got around to it.

That's a very nice save indeed.
That paint was in bad condition and you just brought it back to life

Thanks. While I'm not completely satisfied with it (I never am unless it's 100% perfect) I can't wait to see the owner's reaction when he picks it up today... he's used to the bad shops washing and waxing it and it looking "good" for a month or so... I think he'll absolutely love it now.

[Tom Weed]

Re: Another case of "you get what you pay for"...

[QUOTE=lecchilo;204429]Gotcha. I don't have any #66 at the moment but will order some soon and see how good it actually is... I've been wanting to get some for a while anyway just never got around to it.


Rick at ADS sells it in the 12 oz. sampler bottles so you don't have to buy the whole gallon to try it out if you didn't already know.

Nice work too btw!