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  • Young, inexperienced painter (56K go watch a World Cup match!)

    A friend of mine wanted some custom paintwork done on her modified 2003 PT GT (the thing is making around 280HP!!) and thought about an ode to the old Mopar strobe side graphic with the hockey stick end to it. Well, she fell prey to a young guy who sold himself as a guy who could do a great job for not much money. Caveat emptor as Julius Caesar might have said!!

    Well, the paint itself came out so-so but his finishing steps left much to be desired, to say the least, and even his prep could have been better. There was a TON of overspray on the roof, so much so that in spots the clay bar did nothing. Zip, zilch, nada. We had to - cringe - wetsand to take it down. Sorry, no pics of that, but you can imagine how beautiful the roof looked with the overspray gone but full of 2000 grit sanding marks!

    Anyway, here's a couple before shots:

    This is how the car looked when it first pulled up at my house. Yikes!! We washed it with Gold Class but, of course, it looked pretty much the same after!


    Here's a close up of the hood after washing. Rather disgusting, wouldn't you say? And yet, the young painter actually claimed this to be the finished product. He attacked...er, sorry, he buffed the paint with a cheap 2 speed rotary and a wool pad. No clue what chemical he used as I wasn't there to witness the tragedy.



    This is the driver's side rear door. You can see what look like scuff marks of some sort in a vertical pattern. I have no clue how you introduce such marring into the paint.



    Anyway, I gave M80 a shot and it was quickly apparent that this was going to be a looooong process, so I swapped to M83 and went at it. Here's the obligatory half-and-half shot of the hood after two passes with M83.



    This is the passenger side, again showing before/after side by side. In this light the paint just looks really dull and not swirled. It was just plain bad.

    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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    And now, a couple of After shots

    The whole process took about 8 hours, and by the time we were finished I had done 2 passes of M83 on the hood and roof, a single pass of M83 everywhere else, a single pass of M80 over the entire car, and then two passes of M20 Polymer Sealant just to pretty her up.

    The 200 grit sanding marks came out of the roof just fine as the last image here will show. I used a Sonus Swirl Buster pad to get rid of the sanding marks, and it performed beautifully. Since the whole intent here was to fix the screwups from the painter we didn't bother with things like dressing the tires or wheel wells, no interior or engine work, etc. Just the paint. Needless to say, my friend went home a happy camper and is no longer embarrassed by the finish on her car.



    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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    • #3
      awsome! this needs to be an extreme makeover !
      Patrick Yu
      2003 Honda Accord
      2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6

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      • #4
        This is pretty impressive Mike,




        Just to make sure because I don't think I read anywhere about which tool you were using to apply the M83 and M80, was it the rotary buffer or a dual action polisher? My guess is the rotary buffer because the finish from the painter was so horrific looking but I know you have the skill and experience to make both tools perform to their utmost.


        Maybe your friend can share this thread with the painter and if he has a good attitude towards learning, maybe he'll see that he needs to bring his knowledge and skills in the department of paint polishing up to a higher level?

        One can only hope...
        Mike Phillips
        760-515-0444
        showcargarage@gmail.com

        "Find something you like and use it often"

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        • #5
          You have "the skills", Mike - that's for sure. Great job.
          Nate Williams
          N.E.W.car Mobile Detailing

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          • #6
            Where is the graphic at?
            Let's make all of the cars shiny!

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            • #7
              Great work...Yeah Extreme Makeover for sure.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mike Phillips


                Just to make sure because I don't think I read anywhere about which tool you were using to apply the M83 and M80, was it the rotary buffer or a dual action polisher? My guess is the rotary buffer because the finish from the painter was so horrific looking but I know you have the skill and experience to make both tools perform to their utmost.
                Wow, I neglected to share with all of you which tool I used....what a goofball! It was indeed the wonderful little Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher. And Mike, I have you to thank for showing me the proper way to use this little baby. Oh, and the owner of this particular PT thanks you too!
                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TH0001
                  Where is the graphic at?
                  The graphic is a strobe stripe running right through the door handles and wrapping around the window at the rear of the car. It's a very subtle graphic in a dark grey metallic over the Onyx Green primary color. The hood is also done in the dark grey metallic rather than a flat black, which was her first thought for the project.
                  Michael Stoops
                  Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                  Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
                    Wow, I neglected to share with all of you which tool I used....what a goofball! It was indeed the wonderful little Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher. And Mike, I have you to thank for showing me the proper way to use this little baby. Oh, and the owner of this particular PT thanks you too!
                    WOW you used a PC and you removed 2000 grit sanding marks?? you did take the PC to the next level!! Did you have to apply a crazy amount of pressure to the swirlbuster because it is thicker??

                    alll i can say is WOW
                    Patrick Yu
                    2003 Honda Accord
                    2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6

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                    • #11
                      Awesome job Mike!


                      PC.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sneek
                        you used a PC and you removed 2000 grit sanding marks?? you did take the PC to the next level!! Did you have to apply a crazy amount of pressure to the swirlbuster because it is thicker??

                        Two passes with M83 and one with M80 using quite a bit of pressure, and working the product for a good long time. But to be honest, the sanding marks were very light because we used no more pressure than absolutely necessary to remove that overspray. We went really, really slow because, quite frankly, I was terrified of doing it!!
                        Michael Stoops
                        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                        • #13
                          That's Quality!!!



                          Now, print this pic, and give to your friend so she can show it to the guy who did that injustice...and have him pay you!

                          Alex
                          Mandarina Racing

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                          • #14
                            Outstanding!!!!!

                            -Bob
                            NXTti graduate, Meguiars Ford/SEMA Team

                            "All Corvette's are red, the rest are mistakes" - John Heinricy (Corvette Engineer)

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                            • #15
                              Thats amazing

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