m21 vs nxt

[gb387]

Re: m21 vs nxt

gb387,
sorry didn't mean to get OT here, but I will just add this;

20 is listed under the cleaner waxes, I think MP posted once the strength of the cleaner waxes once from the most aggressive to the least aggressive, but I couldn't find it. I did find where it states that it has a light amount of chemical cleaners in it, so it's mild in comparsion to say 66 or color X, but it does have some cleaning ability. IMO, it's a great winter wax to use because it's so easy to use and has great durability.

Tom

Interesting.... might be one to try, kind of like you said a 'winter wax'. Seems I have heard it had light cleaners but never thought anything of it. Thanks for the info.

[Tom Weed]

Re: m21 vs nxt

gb387,
sorry didn't mean to get OT here, but I will just add this;

20 is listed under the cleaner waxes, I think MP posted once the strength of the cleaner waxes once from the most aggressive to the least aggressive, but I couldn't find it. I did find where it states that it has a light amount of chemical cleaners in it, so it's mild in comparsion to say 66 or color X, but it does have some cleaning ability. IMO, it's a great winter wax to use because it's so easy to use and has great durability.

Tom

[gb387]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Here is a good reading starting at post #2: What's the deal with "Layering?"

[gb387]

Re: m21 vs nxt

There are very very mild cleaners in NXT and I think #21, they are not intended to clean a surface like a cleaner wax will. I can not find the post that tells what the cleaners in the waxes are intended for, so someone else might chime in and give better detail.

You definitely are not going to remove a coat of wax #21 or NXT, they can be applied over eachother and the difference in looks shows. 2 coats are better than one!

We hear cleaners and and its assumed they are cleaner waxes but in fact they are not. Hope that helps!

[Darren F]

Re: m21 vs nxt

I was just under the impression that NXT and #21 had some mild cleaners in them. I have read that if you put it on top of another product it will remove it or if you try and layer it it just removes the previous layer

[gb387]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Darren,
besides the cleaner waxes, #20 has a decent amount of cleaning ability and good durability. As gb387 mentions, both NXT and 21 don't have much cleaning ability.

Tom

a little OT: I didn't realize #20 had cleaners in it, never used it... is it considered a 'cleaner wax'? Does it compare to something like #6?

[kellyinkc]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Darren,
besides the cleaner waxes, #20 has a decent amount of cleaning ability and good durability. As gb387 mentions, both NXT and 21 don't have much cleaning ability.

Tom

Did not know that about 20. Making a list of goodies to get with the gift certificate.

[Tom Weed]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Darren,
besides the cleaner waxes, #20 has a decent amount of cleaning ability and good durability. As gb387 mentions, both NXT and 21 don't have much cleaning ability.

Tom

[gb387]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Which of the 2 will clean better?

They are both meant to be applied to a new or prepared(clay/clean/polish) surface. If you are looking to clean and wax in one step you need to look at a cleaner wax like Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax or #6 Cleaner/Wax.

What are you trying to accomplish?

[Darren F]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Which of the 2 will clean better?

[SDLexus]

Re: m21 vs nxt

I've used both and prefer the M21. It is slightly "warmer" IMO and it's easier to work very thin coats. Both will give excellent results.

[Vios]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Where did you buy a 64oz M21? I asked MGT and they're only willing to sell the 16oz to me?

I got mine from Megs USA - delivered to an American buddy who then flew it out to LOS for me.

I emailed info@meguiars.co.th for pricing on the M21 and some other stuff not listed on the TH website, but they only responded with the following:


M2164 SYNTHETIC SEALANT 8000 BATH

C2000 MILD DETAILING CLAY 1800 BAHT



(verbatim) - that was back on the 18th of May (2006) now though.

[ByronW]

Re: m21 vs nxt

Where did you buy a 64oz M21? I asked MGT and they're only willing to sell the 16oz to me?

[Vios]

I just paid AU$121 for 1.9L of #21

Here in Thailand they want 8000 Baht (AUD$286 / US$210) for the 1.9L #21! Luckily for me a mate was heading back to the 'States recently and picked it up for just USD$40 for me..

Meg's outrageously overpriced outside of the US of A!

[aaron33]

I'm an NXT user who tried #21 for the first time. My first observation when I opened the bottle of #21 was that there was a solid film formed over the opening. It had formed on the seal surface. I picked it out with my hand, it was translucent and very very solid. So it was the first indication that it was tough.

I decided to apply by hand this time. Took out my foam applicator and put on some #21. It's more watery than NXT. Since it is watery, a little bit on the foam can cover quite a few panels! And it goes on smooth, none of the grabby action of NXT liquid. Buffing was easy too. But the amazing thing was the look. NXT gave bright reflections. But with #21, the reflections were not that bright, but my dark blue paint looked darker! I've been using P21s carnauba over NXT for the deep look, and now I don't need to anymore with #21!

I'm in Australia, so NXT liquid wax is AU$40 for 473mL, and P21s carnauba is $54 for 175mL. I just paid AU$121 for 1.9L of #21 and it is by far much better value than getting NXT and P21s. Of course, I could get some other friends to share the cost of #21... but since I think I'm the only one crazy enough to go to Meg's Sydney distributor to spend AU$121, I want to keep #21 as my secret weapon.

Thanks to Mike and Mad iX for getting me to go contact the Meg's dristributor here. Otherwise I wouldn't have come upon such a "lovely" wax!