#82 Swirl Free Polish

[rusty bumper]

Just wondering if any of you guys use this product much. I have used it a few times, but I find myself going for #83 DACP, or #80 Speed Glaze for the bulk of my detailing needs......(I use a PC)

Maybe I need to use it as a follow-up behind DACP more often instead of Speed Glaze, and save Speed Glaze for one step cleaning & polishing.

I stored some of #82 in a M9912 bottle (clear generic dispenser) last year, after I first opened it. But it has broken down into a watery, milky like state this year.

What's funny though, is that the rest of the product that's in the quart size tan bottle is just fine, and I keep all of my products in a controlled environment.

Makes me wonder if #82 is subject to breaking down when exposed to light for long periods of time?

Maybe that's why Meguiars uses the tan bottles to begin with?

[Mike Phillips]

Re: #82 Swirl Free Polish

Originally posted by Rusty Bumper
Just wondering if any of you guys use this product much. I have used it a few times, but I find myself going for #83 DACP, or #80 Speed Glaze for the bulk of my detailing needs......(I use a PC)

Maybe I need to use it as a follow-up behind DACP more often instead of Speed Glaze, and save Speed Glaze for one step cleaning & polishing.

This is a good polish for very soft paints after final polishing with M80 Speed Glaze where you still need a little polishing work to produce the clearest finish.

I stored some of #82 in a M9912 bottle (clear generic dispenser) last year, after I first opened it. But it has broken down into a watery, milky like state this year.

We're you able to re-mix it by shaking it up?

Also, did you have a cap on the tip to prevent any of the liquids inside from evaporating out?

[305Cummins]

Re: Re: #82 Swirl Free Polish

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
This is a good polish for very soft paints after final polishing with M80 Speed Glaze where you still need a little polishing work to produce the clearest finish.

I thought that M80 started off slightly more aggressive than M82 but would break down and produce as fine a finish as M82.

This sounds like M82 will produce a more polished finish. Is this correct?

[rusty bumper]

Re: Re: #82 Swirl Free Polish

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
This is a good polish for very soft paints after final polishing with M80 Speed Glaze where you still need a little polishing work to produce the clearest finish.

Thanks for the tip.

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
We're you able to re-mix it by shaking it up?

No, it still had the same consistancy after I gave it a good shaking. It reminds me of a melted milkshake.

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Also, did you have a cap on the tip to prevent any of the liquids inside from evaporating out?

Yes, the cap was secured ok......No leakage at all, even when the bottle was turned upside-down.

I have #83, & #80 in the clear generic containers too, but they get refilled often.

I don't use #81 quite as often, and it is in the same type of container too, but the product looks ok though.

Is it possible that UV light could have had an effect on 82?

[rusty bumper]

Re: Re: Re: #82 Swirl Free Polish

Originally posted by 305Cummins
This sounds like M82 will produce a more polished finish. Is this correct?

After today, I believe it is.

I went back and did some finish detailing today on this vehicle, but instead of using #80, I decided to go with #82, followed by #81, and NXT. The results were outstanding to say the least.

There's something about how #82 can add a rich wet look to the finish. IMO, the car looked better this time than it did last time!

#82 will help to give you a show car shine.

[rusty bumper]

Re: Re: #82 Swirl Free Polish

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
We're you able to re-mix it by shaking it up?

To add to what I said earlier....

I shook up #82 (in the clear dipenser) and poured it out this morning. But at the bottom of the bottle, there was about 1/4" of congealed product.

After trying to shake it out again, I had to use an old fork just to pry pieces of it loose.

Kinda weird how the product in the tan bottle has held up ok, while it separated in the clear bottle.

[showtime]

I've found that I skip #82 a lot. I used to use #83/#82/LSP but I've been using #80 in it's place. I do a lot of volume detailing for a dealership and I think #80 does a good job of hiding swirls which is why I use it a lot. I'm not worried about perfection, just restoring a shine.

Now that you mention it, I'm a little bored today so I may go polish out my Mustang with #82.

[2000]

Re: Re: Re: #82 Swirl Free Polish

Originally posted by 305Cummins


I thought that M80 started off slightly more aggressive than M82 but would break down and produce as fine a finish as M82.

This sounds like M82 will produce a more polished finish. Is this correct? [/B]

I'd like a clarification on this as well. I thought the same thing and found that #80 is alitlle easier to work with.

[rusty bumper]

#80 is definitely a great product.

But my opinion as of now, is that #82 has a richer, warmer, wetter looking gloss than #80 (At least on red clear coated paint), and #82 wiped off very easy too.

I had no problems working with it to speak of.

I have a black Saturn Vue coming up this month, and I think I'll give 82 a try on it.



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[2000]

Originally posted by Rusty Bumper
#80 is definitely a great product.

But my opinion as of now, is that #82 has a richer, warmer, wetter looking gloss than #80 (At least on red clear coated paint), and #82 wiped off very easy too.

I had no problems working with it to speak of.

I have a black Saturn Vue coming up this month, and I think I'll give 82 a try on it.



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I never had any "problems" with #82, just seems #80 was easier because of the extra oils. I did like #82/ #81 combo better for looks, but got lazy and found #80 to be as close if not equal and only needing one step.

[rusty bumper]

Originally posted by 2000
I never had any "problems" with #82, just seems #80 was easier because of the extra oils. I did like #82/ #81 combo better for looks, but got lazy and found #80 to be as close if not equal and only needing one step.

It's tough to beat that wet look though!

I might do a side by side comparison of 80 & 82 one day.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Re: Re: #82 Swirl Free Polish

Originally posted by 305Cummins
I thought that M80 started off slightly more aggressive than M82 but would break down and produce as fine a finish as M82.

M80 does start out more aggressive than M82.

This sounds like M82 will produce a more polished finish. Is this correct?

M82 is a less aggressive polish, in fact it is very very gentle as cleaner/polishes go. I can remember as specific situation when working on a fairly soft clear coat over black basecoat that the M82 was working better to leave a more perfect finish than the M80 Speed Glaze.

We started with M83 to remove the worst of the deeper swirls and scratches. We the re-polished the paint with M80 Speed Glaze to produce an even more clear finish over what the M83 achieved. After the M80 the finish was a zillion times better than when we started with a swirled-out, scratched up mess, but it still wasn't perfect, at least in my eyes. I grabbed a new, clean W-8006 foam polishing pad and re-polished the paint using the M82 Swirl Free Polish and built upon the results produced by both the M83 and the M80 leaving an absolutely flawless, crystal clear finish. Remember, we started with a horrible looking finish, and even though the M83 and the M80 took the finish to about 95% flawless, the paint appeared to be soft enough that even the M80 with a W-8006 foam polishing pad was leaving just a little bit of a haze. I was so minor that coat of any wax would have taken the finish to 100%, but instead of going to wax we tried re-polishing using an even less aggressive polish and it worked like a dream. After this we went to NXT Tech Wax.

I think this was on a re-painted Accura NSX at a recent clinic.

We we're aiming for perfection and it took a little time to dial-in a product selection that gave us what we we're looking for. This is why we like to use the toolbox analogy when talking about Meguiar's Professional Line. A lot of people stumble when they see so many products, but instead of a Crescent Wrench approach like a bottle of Meguiar's ColorX is analogous to, the multiple products found in Meguiar's Processional Line is like a set of 6 point closed-end wrenches, each tool created for a specific task.

[gtp]

Just wanted to bump this topic. on blackcars with swirls it seems like #83 is a good place to start...but what to use after the #83 (#80?,#82?, DC Polish? ) on black seems to be the million dollar question..HELP PLEASE

[Mike Phillips]

The answer can be found in this thread,

Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

[zey]

I just opened up a new bottle of M82 which I bought it 4 days ago. I worked on a small section of the roof with the following steps:

M83/W-8006/Rotary
M80/W-8006/ROB
M82/MF buffing pad/ROB
NXT/MF buffing pad/ROB

M82 produced a clearer finish compared to M80 on my soft and sensitive paint. I would say at least 90% of the buffer swirls are removed with M80 and M82 increased the percentage to 98%. M82 seems to contain less oil and it's quite easy to work with. From now onwards, M82 is going to be the weapon to fight holograms, swirls and micro-marring.