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  • M9 replace M82 ?

    just a quick one
    Both me & seech is arguing whether can we finish off black paint with pure rotary without marring, light hologram under sunlight

    & if yes, what is the product combination? M9 or M 82 or M205

    BTW, we hv tested with
    M105/ finishing pad
    M80/finishing pad
    M86/polishing pad

    worst still if it is polished with M83, esp when it dries up (mot sure if the weather is too hot here)

    p/s DA is good but no one could afford usd 444 for it
    it only takes a little patience and plenty of PASSION!!

    detailing blog

    http://thedetailers.blogspot.com

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    Re: M9 replace M82 ?

    Try M82. I've definitely followed heavy M105/wool/rotary work with M82 and gotten truly 100% FLAWLESS finish. I've done it on family vehicles and seen them months later, so I know the results are true.

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    • #3
      Re: M9 replace M82 ?

      Originally posted by Mark Kleis View Post
      Try M82. I've definitely followed heavy M105/wool/rotary work with M82 and gotten truly 100% FLAWLESS finish. I've done it on family vehicles and seen them months later, so I know the results are true.

      thanks Mark

      do u reckon that we can with rotary finish with M82 without marring/hologram of buffing marks

      really app

      as we are having headache over finishing
      it only takes a little patience and plenty of PASSION!!

      detailing blog

      http://thedetailers.blogspot.com

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      • #4
        Re: M9 replace M82 ?

        Originally posted by KC's View Post
        thanks Mark

        do u reckon that we can with rotary finish with M82 without marring/hologram of buffing marks

        really app

        as we are having headache over finishing
        I have had fantastic success with M82. I was able to fully remove all remaining swirls and holograms after using wool and M105 via rotary with M82 on a very hard clear coat. The final finish was one of the best I have personally ever seen. It looked an inch thick and dripping wet. It's also a fairly easy to use polish.

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        • #5
          Re: M9 replace M82 ?

          Originally posted by Mark Kleis View Post
          I have had fantastic success with M82. I was able to fully remove all remaining swirls and holograms after using wool and M105 via rotary with M82 on a very hard clear coat. The final finish was one of the best I have personally ever seen. It looked an inch thick and dripping wet. It's also a fairly easy to use polish.

          Thank you sir

          would give them a try
          it only takes a little patience and plenty of PASSION!!

          detailing blog

          http://thedetailers.blogspot.com

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          • #6
            Re: M9 replace M82 ?

            M82 and M205 should both give outstanding results, but how you use them is as important as what you use. Slow that machine down, as slow as 900rpm even, and keep the pad flat flat flat against the paint. Move the machine slowly - give it time to work and really finish the paint down. If ever there was a time to really finesse the finish, this is it.
            Michael Stoops
            Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

            Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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            • #7
              Re: M9 replace M82 ?

              M82, try this I must - Yoda
              Philippians 2:14 - Do all things without grumbling or questioning,

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              • #8
                Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                Can M82 be used by hand?

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                • #9
                  Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                  M82 can be used by hand, orbital, D/A or rotary.
                  Michael Stoops
                  Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                  Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                  • #10
                    Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                    M82 can be used by hand, orbital, D/A or rotary.
                    Thanks Michael again
                    it only takes a little patience and plenty of PASSION!!

                    detailing blog

                    http://thedetailers.blogspot.com

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                    • #11
                      Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                      It can be done (finishing with RB only). Another factor to consider might be the paint itself. All the #9, #82, #80 & #205 gives great results if used correctly.
                      Learning new things everyday

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                      • #12
                        Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                        Originally posted by KC's View Post
                        just a quick one
                        Both me & seech is arguing whether can we finish off black paint with pure rotary without marring, light hologram under sunlight

                        & if yes, what is the product combination? M9 or M 82 or M205

                        BTW, we hv tested with
                        M105/ finishing pad
                        M80/finishing pad
                        M86/polishing pad

                        worst still if it is polished with M83, esp when it dries up (mot sure if the weather is too hot here)

                        p/s DA is good but no one could afford usd 444 for it
                        Hey KC,

                        Though M82 and M09 are very similar, having used both for a long time, I do indeed see differences. While M09 may have more TS Oils, I have found M82 the better choice to use with the rotary polisher.

                        When using M82 with the rotary as a finishing step, while it can be done, it is highly dependent on the hardness of the paint. I use much slower speeds, but I also use more product than usual when finishing with a rotary and M82. The last thing I want is for the pad to dry out allowing it to add to the cut of M82. So make sure the pad is always clean and use the weight of the polisher only to buff the finish...

                        If you have M205 as an option however, I would use it instead M82 or M09. Again, while both M09 and M82 are excellent products, I just love M205!



                        Tim
                        Tim Lingor's Product Reviews

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                        • #13
                          Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                          Tim. Thanks for the feedback. M205 is very very expensive and we were just wondering if we would be able to get 'similar' results with M09 or M82. I was leaning more towards M82 while KC was suggesting M09. The only issue with M82 is that there have been cases in more humid locations where the polish separates itself and becomes very watery.

                          Might have to get a small bottle of M205 to try out first......
                          Detailing blog: prodetailing.blogspot.com
                          Everything else: theseech.blogspot.com

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                          • #14
                            Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                            Originally posted by TimG View Post
                            It can be done (finishing with RB only). Another factor to consider might be the paint itself. All the #9, #82, #80 & #205 gives great results if used correctly.
                            TimG, right now on really soft paint I use the ROB with M80 and it finishes great. KC and I were just wondering if it were possible to do so with just a rotary.... I guess we're trying to determine who has more kung-fu... AHAHAHAHAH....
                            Detailing blog: prodetailing.blogspot.com
                            Everything else: theseech.blogspot.com

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                              Re: M9 replace M82 ?

                              Originally posted by seech View Post
                              Tim. Thanks for the feedback. M205 is very very expensive and we were just wondering if we would be able to get 'similar' results with M09 or M82. I was leaning more towards M82 while KC was suggesting M09. The only issue with M82 is that there have been cases in more humid locations where the polish separates itself and becomes very watery.

                              Might have to get a small bottle of M205 to try out first......
                              It is too bad prices vary so much depending on where one lives...

                              Yes, you can certainly use M82 in place of M205, though M205 is a little more aggressive. I am not sure why your product is separating.... Shake the M82 and see if it goes back to a creamy liquid. If it does, it is the heat/humidity and you will have to shake it quite often ( I have had this happen with M81 Hand Polish).

                              Like I said, I like M82 better when used with the rotary, but with the DA, I like M09 as the extra TS Oils add a little extra "pop" to the finish.

                              Tim
                              Tim Lingor's Product Reviews

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