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  • M105 by hand review.

    When I get home in a week or so I will try to get some pics. But for now words will have to do.

    I have an area on my car that neither my Makita or my PC can fit under. It's the rear hatch under a wing. I generally use ScratchX on it when I buff the car. The car has some pretty deep scratches and while the rest of the car is now swirl and scratch free the hatch area is still pretty rough. ScratchX was slowly making it look better but not really up to my standards.

    So I decided to give #105 a shot. WOW pretty much sums it up. I applied #105 with a microfiber towel using A LOT of passion and more product than ScratchX. Figure 3 pea sized drops for an 8" X 8" area. I spread the product and then go to town with the towel. I kept the towel bunched up in my palm and avoided using finger or palm pressure to keep it even. I worked the product until it started to go clear. This was a workout! The remaining product was removed easily with a clean microfiber. I looked at the area under Halogen lights when I was done. Very impressive. ALL the swirls where gone but as expected some of the deeper scratches remained but where greatly reduced. I then sprayed the area with glass cleaner twice to remove any oils left on the paint and took another look with the Halogen light. Much to my surprise ALL the minor swirls where removed, not just filled in. The deeper scratches where still reduced but did show up a little more after the polishing oils where removed. NO marring showed up under the light either, which surprised me as well given the amount of cut #105 had by hand. This is very different from my experience with ScratchX which IMO doesn't have nearly the defect removing ability (although it does have some) and does much more filling/hiding. I decided to use #105 by hand on my A-pillars and a couple other hard to buff areas with similar results. All areas where then finished with #80 and finally #7 by hand to match the process on the rest of the car.

    To summarize:
    M105 is simply the BEST product I have ever used to REMOVE defects by hand. #9 is the best filling/hiding product I have used by hand and ScratchX is somewhere in between.

    Questions?
    Jason

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    Re: M105 by hand review.

    Awesome review and even it could even be a how to article, just add a few pictures...

    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    • #3
      Re: M105 by hand review.

      Jason,

      Thats a great story. Can't wait for the pics. Glad it worked out so well.
      quality creates its own demand

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      • #4
        Re: M105 by hand review.

        Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
        Awesome review and even it could even be a how to article, just add a few pictures...

        Yeah, I know I need to add some pics. I was going to wait until I got home to post this but I had some free time on my hands so I figured why not? I'll do a little write up next week and get some pics added.

        This is probably better put in the "product suggestions" forum but why not reformulate ScratchX with the new micro-abrasives I had no issues removing it so it would seem consumer line friendly and it's a shame to not let more general enthusiasts enjoy it!
        Jason

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        • #5
          Re: M105 by hand review.

          somewhat of a newbie question, but why follow up 105 with 9?

          Also, someone told me that 7 was only for single stage paints, is that true?

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          • #6
            Re: M105 by hand review.

            Sometimes, M105 may leave the finish with a light haze or micro marring. A light cleaner can easily remove the marring and leave a defect free finish.

            #7 can be used on any paint. It was originally formulated for single stage paints (Sealer and Resealer was the original name), but it works fine on clear coats, too.
            Chris
            Dasher Detailing Services

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            • #7
              Re: M105 by hand review.

              Thanks for the explanation!

              I am just trying to get a good handle on products and their differences. I am leaving soon to go back to college and I was wanting to help my brother out with his Mach 1 and also fix my hood. So I am trying to compile a list of what I will need and how much of it.

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              • #8
                Re: M105 by hand review.

                It's hard to say exactly what you will need without knowing what you are working on and how you are going to apply the product. Are you working by hand or machine? What are you going to help your brother do on his Mach 1? What's wrong with his hood?

                As far as #7. I have been using it on all my details lately. I go through phases where I use it all the time and phases where I don't use it at all. Anytime I go back to it after a break I am SO amazed at how wet it leaves the paint looking. And this is BC/CC paint I am talking here. Use it on a single stage paint and it REALLY gives the paint that wet look we all want. I have only had the opportunity to do this a few times but the effect it has on SS paints is far superior to what it can do on BC/CC paints IMO. But like I said, it does have enough of a visual effect that I love using it on any paint.
                Jason

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                • #9
                  Re: M105 by hand review.

                  By hand:
                  Wash
                  Clay
                  #105 for defect removal
                  #9 for defect hiding or to remove #105 marring (if needed)
                  #7 (optional)
                  NXT

                  By G110:
                  Wash
                  Clay
                  #105, #83, #80, Etc. With a DA your polishing options open up a lot!
                  #7 (optional)
                  NXT

                  That's sorta the generic answer without seeing what you are actually trying to accomplish.
                  Jason

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                  • #10
                    Re: M105 by hand review.

                    Yeah, my question just to solicit some information so I could better understand the products and therefore choose the right ones.

                    As far as my hood goes, I'm not sure what to do, it is pretty bad!

                    As far as my brother's Mach goes, well it is in bad shape too. He had at the mechanic's for a couple weeks due to lack of funding (haha). However, the mechanic left it under a tree and his car has accumulated a TON of bonded surface contaminants. He also has some overspray, bird ****, and very light swirls scratches. So most definitely needing some clay and maybe 80/83 with a DA.

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                    • #11
                      Re: M105 by hand review.

                      Superb - Thanks for the review and detail on the technique. I'm a "by hand" kind of guy and luckily a great Hulk of a bloke with huge shoulders, so I can cope with this kind of work

                      I wonder whether one of those hand applicator handles would do a good job - you know, one of those rubber grips that attaches to the applicator with a velcro-like pad. I think one of those would attach happily to a microfibre pad.

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                      • #12
                        Re: M105 by hand review.

                        You know, I haven't tried any of those applicator handles before. Let me know how they work if you get your hands on one.
                        Jason

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                        • #13
                          Re: M105 by hand review.

                          I was talking to Mike Phillips about those. I saw them the other day for 4 dollars at store near my house. I concurr with Mike who said that using one of those handles would help to more evenly apply the pressure.

                          I am thinking about picking one up this week.

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                          • #14
                            Re: M105 by hand review.

                            I've always seen them in more budget shops - Halfords (which is a UK chain of fairly standard car maintenance products - oil, lights, small parts and some cleaning products: mostly Autoglym, Meguiars, Turtle Wax and so on) sells one under that Flash brand which usually make household cleaners. I have yet to try one, but I think you could get a lot more "purchase" by hand with one.

                            I have seen somewhere recently in an online shop, a hand tool that allows machine pads to be attached. How good that would be is another matter, since machine pads are designed to rotate. Interesting idea, nevertheless ... I'll have to make a concerted effort to find them again.

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