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I look like a fool now.. I BELIEVED you when you told me...
"I mixed in Pixie Dust, Kevin. Shhhhhh..."
Ha-ha. Very funny.
Well, thanks a lot Kevin. You told the world about our secret ingredient. Now I'll have to answer to all the candy stores that have no Pixie Dust because we cornered the supply!
The problem is that the abrasive can easily be "extracted" from the solution (I'm sure your competitors have). Unlike waxes/sealants, polishes are much easier to reverse engineer, as the only real mystery is in the lubrication and oil in the polish, and even then its not as difficult as most lsp's, where the mixing temperatures and pressures are more guess work.
M105 seems to defy a couple of Meguiar's previous logics, one that diminishing abrasives are better. I understand technology moves forward, and I for one am excited to see Meguiar's leading the pack!
Thank you, but we are definitely not abandoning our "Diminishing Abrasive Technology" which we started offering in 1901. In fact, if you look back at time, and compare our technology to some of the "Rocks in a Bottle" that were available back in time, our "Diminishing Abrasive Technology" was far superior. However, due to our advances in technology ( yes we do have our own lab and full staff of chemists on site here in Irvine, Ca) as well as paint technology, we discovered a new solution for this type of product / customer (M105 that is). With that said, we still strongly believe in all of our products that contain our "Diminishing Abrasives" and we will continue to to utilize our "Diminishing Abrasive Technology" in the future in the right products.
I am also curious as why (as Tim stated) the product is worked until it is broken down, when it doesn't break down? Also, the abrasives that initially cut the paint (at a rate of 12) would also leave micro marring if they are still that aggressive during wipe off.
There are so many more factors that go into "cutting" than just the "size" of the abrasive. That is the information that is propriety.
I understand that you guys won't go into detail and understand the reasons why, but from the the numerous formulators I have spoken with, they have assured me that the reality is that the abrasives are breaking down, whether they are called "diminishing" or not.
You are right...in the big picture most everything breaks down over time including the road we drive on....However, there are variables in our formulations where the time it takes to "breakdown" can be controlled 100%. For example, is it 3 passes or 300 passes with a rotary buffer to get that "breakdown" effect you refer to. Therefore, our non diminishing abrasive technology is far different than our diminishing abrasive technology.
Tim, Great write up as usual. Very informitve and well written. Thanks for taking the time to do it for us. More items to order. The list never ends. lol
Based on reviews here and Autopia (Todd, aka TH001 seems to be blown away by the results!) I am actually eager to spend nearly $100 on a gallon of #105.
Based on reviews here and Autopia (Todd, aka TH001 seems to be blown away by the results!) I am actually eager to spend nearly $100 on a gallon of #105.
2hotford, have u test M105 with W8006 ? If not what would u think about the outcome from it ? Similiar to Diamond polishing pad ??
Morning,
Yes I have, but to be honest, it easier with the Wool Pads. With the W-8006 pad, it works, but you have to be really careful with how much product you are using and the speed of the rotary. In the end, after trying it with all kinds of combos, I found that the wool pads worked by far the best! Plus I am simply amazed at how well this product works!
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