NXT Booster Wax Cleaning Properties

[sky8811]

Originally posted by 2hotford
Hey,

What material are you using the Spray Wax on to apply to the tar spot? If it is a cotton towel the cleaning would be more of a function of the towel and the friction created by it rather than any extremely mild cleaners in the spray wax. The Spray Wax is acting as a lubricant while you are rubbing.


Tim

Hi Tim,

I know what you mean and that was what I think at first.
So I try the second tar spot with Gold Class applicator pad(W002).
Than I work on the tar spot long enough and the spot was gone again....(I work on that spot only without touching any other part of my car)
The whole issue was like using the step1 paint cleaner, is able to clean away dirt on the paint work.

[05PhillyStang]

This discussion about booster wax and dirt has got me thinking...

detailed my car 1 week ago, wash once every week and a half or so with QD in between. I'm looking to use booster wax, say 2-3 weeks after the full detail. Wouldn't there be enough dirt embedded that a wash alone wouldn't be able to remove?

Adding bosster wax would just trap the dirt. Shouldn't a cleaner be used before using any wax?

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by 05PhillyStang
Adding booster wax would just trap the dirt. Shouldn't a cleaner be used before using any wax?

I think you make the point for a little cleaning ability in a spray on wax. Unless your car is in a museum on display, or always parked inside a garage, it is exposed to dirt in all different manners as a daily driver. Washing will not remove all dirt and contaminants, but if a car is maintained often, the amount and type of dirt and contaminants that may not be removed during regular washing can often times be removed with a light cleaning step, or a product with a little cleaning ability. This is a benefit to you and your car's paint.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by sky8811
The whole issue was like using the step1 paint cleaner, is able to clean away dirt on the paint work.

I don't know that either of our spray waxes contain any specific, or dedicated paint cleaners in them, but the formula as a whole, may offer some light cleaning because at it's essence, it's a liquid chemical with all kinds of ingredients, and when rubbed on a car finish, this collection of liquid chemicals and then rubbing action of your hand together with the physical contact with your applicator is going to have a cleaning effect.

The end result is a clean surface that looks good and often times better than when you started.

I keep getting a feeling as I read through this thread that this particular point is being left out, the fact that if you wash your car, and then apply either one our spray waxes, Quik Wax, or NXT Spray Wax, and then remove it, your car's paint will look better. How this is achieved is secondary, the result is primary, that is if your goal was to make the paint look good.

sky8811

The spray waxes, at some level may offer some cleaning to the finish as you apply it, if it does, then this is a benefit to both you and your car's finish as it results in a finish that looks great.

If you're stumbling on the cleaning aspect of the product, then don't use it. If you find a spray-on wax that when applied like you're using, it does not remove the tar, let us know, as I think any liquid, spray-on wax when applied to the finish in the manner in which you're applying it, (and anyone would be applying it), is, at some level, going to have a cleaning effect as you're experiencing. And as long as the end-result, is a beautiful finish, then I then I'm not sure I understand why this is an issue?

[Gen2]

Hi Mike, I think what sky8811 concern is (also mine concern), as you mentioned there are liquid chemical in the spray wax, than by using the spray wax with the light cleaning property will it removes the wax or sealant previously coat on the paint leaving only the spray wax on the paint affecting the overall durability?

I believe we are here to learn more about Meguair's products and that's the reason for all the questions. I believe a good student needs to ask in order to learn and improve.

[sky8811]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
sky8811

The spray waxes, at some level may offer some cleaning to the finish as you apply it, if it does, then this is a benefit to both you and your car's finish as it results in a finish that looks great.

If you're stumbling on the cleaning aspect of the product, then don't use it. If you find a spray-on wax that when applied like you're using, it does not remove the tar, let us know, as I think any liquid, spray-on wax when applied to the finish in the manner in which you're applying it, (and anyone would be applying it), is, at some level, going to have a cleaning effect as you're experiencing. And as long as the end-result, is a beautiful finish, then I then I'm not sure I understand why this is an issue?

Hi Mike,

In fact the finish result looks great after using NXT booster wax.
However, as what Gen2 has pointed out my concern:
will that cleans away the NXT paste wax that was last applied to the car?
Just want to learn more about Meg's product thats all...

[RamAirV1]

Spray-on quick detailers will also remove tar in many cases, especially if the tar is fresh. Tar is an above surface contaminant. The fact that the QD is removing the tar does not mean it is removing the wax. It is possible that the wax is helping to prevent the tar from sticking to the paint so it is easier to remove with a QD or spray wax.

RamAirV1

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by sky8811
Hi Mike,

In fact the finish result looks great after using NXT booster wax.

However, as what Gen2 has pointed out my concern:

Will NXT Spray Wax clean away the NXT paste wax that was last applied to the car?

Just want to learn more about Meg's product thats all...

I would say that at some level, yes a spray on wax will remove some of the wax applied previously to the surface, but will also leave behind some of itself in the process as it is a wax after all. It could be a zero sum net gain situation.

Remember, washing your car removes wax, even wiping it with a cloth removes wax, basically anything that comes into contact with wax coating on the surface has the potential to affect the coating. By the term affect, I mean... when you touch your car's paint and subsequently the wax sitting on top of the paint, you're disrupting the wax at some level. If you're applying more wax, in the form of a liquid, paste, or spray-on, you are probably removing a little, and then leaving a little till you reach the point of diminishing returns.

If you're just running a towel over the surface, or washing with a wash mitt, then you're not adding any wax to the surface and more than likely you're removing a little at the microscopic level.

How far do we want to drill down? Nothing remains the same, nothing is excluded from change. Everything is in a state of chaos according to The second law of thermodynamics.

I wouldn't stop using either Meguiar's spray waxes over any concern they are removing wax because in the big picture, they are adding wax and restoring beauty and that's what most of us are looking for, protection and appearance.

I hope this helps...

[Gen2]

Hi Mike, as I was using the NXT spray wax yesterday,suddenly 1 question pop to my mind. Is there a curing time for the NXT spray wax just like the NXT liquid or paste wax ?

[zey]

Gen2, I also applied NXT Booster Wax yesterday after washing. I started to apply evenly using light pressure over the whole engine bonnet and buff it off immediately after the application. It buffs off easily and I get the 'after-wax' gloss. One important tip is to pre-moisten the applicator pad so that you could apply it evenly using small circular motions. I guess you don't have to be really bother with the curing time if you apply the NXT BW once a week. Cheers!

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Gen2
Hi Mike, as I was using the NXT spray wax yesterday,suddenly 1 question pop to my mind. Is there a curing time for the NXT spray wax just like the NXT liquid or paste wax ?

Allow the wax to dry to a haze, or use the Swipe Test to gage.

For me here in Southern California, I can start at one corner of the car, work my way around the entire car and then apply to the roof and when I've finished applying to the entire car, I can start removing the wax beginning where I started applying it and follow my path of travel.

[Gen2]

Thanks for the replies. Maybe I did not make myself very clear in my question. What I meant is to layer NXT liquid or paste wax, its prefer to wait for 12-24 hours for the wax to fully cured. So for the spray wax is there such a curing period ?