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  • Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

    I tried out the Meguiar’s 2009 products on a 2005 Fiat Palio. I prepared 5 test spots and one control spot (no correction done on the control spot). Unfortunately poor lighting in the garage didn’t allow me to capture the results more vividly.

    Products on trial
    ScratchX 2.0
    M205 Ultra Finishing Polish
    Ultimate Compound
    SwirlX
    Ultimate Quik Wax (“UQW”)





    I included UQW after reading a few posts on Meguiar’s Online that this spray wax has an ability of darkening paint and thus reducing the visibility of paint defects, which is ideal for enthusiasts that don’t have access to polishing machines for swirl removal.

    The car was washed with Gold Class shampoo, unfortunately I didn’t have any clay with me to remove above surface contaminants. Products were applied using 5 microfiber applicator pads and buffed for 120 seconds per spot. These pads have more bite compared to the foam applicator pads and you can exert pressure using your palm instead of concentrating pressure on the fingertips. Excess product was removed with a two sided microfiber cloth, first sweep with the tight knit side and final buff with the plush side.

    Here are pictures of swirls on the bonnet, products / applicator used and final pics. The final pictures below were taken after wiping the corrected areas with Meguiar’s Glass Cleaner Concentrate (diluted 10:1) to remove any oil residue that may give the impression of holograms being present and filling rather than removing defects.


    Block 1 (M205 Ultra Finishing Polish)








    Block 2 (ScratchX 2.0)








    Block 3 (Ultimate Compound)








    Block 4 (SwirlX)








    Block 5 (UQW)








    Block 6 (Control spot)



    Final thoughts
    While this was by no means a scientific test that can stand scrutiny of laboratory verification, I was impressed with the outcome from all the above tested products. Which one would I recommend? I would buy all of them with the exception of ScratchX 2.0. In my mind, ScratchX 2.0 is still a spot treatment product however its not superior to the other compounds / paint cleaners tested above.

    M205 is a must have product if you have a polishing machine. I have tried it on my red VW Golf and I am worried that this product has nullified the need to use pure polishes and glazes prior to applying a LSP. Its works quickly to remove swirls (more in line with M80 Speed Glaze) but it leaves a refined and glossy finish. I doubt you will see much difference by applying a glaze on top of M205. M205 left a darker finish compared to other products tested above.

    SwirlX produced a finish that was lot clearer compared to Ultimate Compound and ScratchX 2.0. The other two products left a slight trail which looks like holograming when viewed under a camera flash and the small halogen light on my SonyEricsson camera phone.

    I also used these products on the rest of the car using a Makita BO6040 dual action polisher + Lake Country green CCS pads. There was considerably less dusting and longer work time compared to M105 Ultra Cut Compound (the non dual action polisher compatible version). This was topped with M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 and followed up with UQW to remove dust and overspray from the M40 Vinyl and Rubber dressing applied on plastics.












  • #2
    Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

    Thanks for that very well thought out and executed test of Megs consumer products! My eye is untrained, but it looked like all of the products were equally adept at removing scratches and swirls.

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    • #3
      Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

      Great compares, thanks for sharing.
      Now which one removed the most little swirl?? I ask you this cause maybe we can't see if there are little through the pics, but in a black car will be there, good bye

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      • #4
        Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

        Nice Review/Comparison!!
        Looks Great!!
        Glad to See the Side By Side Comparison!!
        Nice Work!!
        NO MORE SWIRLS!!!
        Joel
        Firefighter/EMT-B
        Rejuvenation Auto Detailing
        "Satisfaction Guaranteed or Your Dirt Back!!!"
        '99 F-150

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        • #5
          Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

          That was very interesting and the results (from the pics) all look great. You seem to be sharing the consensus opinion about M205, which is going to FORCE me into contacting my friends at ADS really soon!!!
          ----------------------------------

          3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

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          • #6
            Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

            nice reviews, I was just looking to ask if there was a test on swirl removal using hand application.

            Can you be more specific on which one worked out best??? and took the most swirls out?

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            • #7
              Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

              Thanks guys

              Originally posted by jaxxx View Post
              Can you be more specific on which one worked out best??? and took the most swirls out?
              I can't remember Mike Phillips' thread on the scale of aggressiveness of the 2009 products. However, based on the test above, I would rate SwirlX as my preferred product for swirl removal by hand. As mentioned above, the SwirlX test spot was a lot clearer compared to the other two consumer products (ScratchX 2.0 and Ultimate Compound). The product appeared to have longer work time compared to ScratchX and Ultimate compound.


              You seem to be sharing the consensus opinion about M205, which is going to FORCE me into contacting my friends at ADS really soon!!!
              There is not doubt that the excitement surrounding M205 is warranted. It cuts like any medium cut polish, does it very efficiently and leave a glossy finish that will compete with any glaze / pure polish.

              I hope the mods wont mind me mentioning this. I was fortunate to pick up by bottle of M205 from ProperAutocare before it was listed on their website. The guys there called me, just before shipping my order to South Africa, to advise me that M205 had arrived that morning.

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              • #8
                Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

                Very helpful review. Thank you for doing this. Definitely worth some additional rep!
                Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                --Al Kimel

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                • #9
                  Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

                  Starvekos, how do you compare M205 with M80? What differences do you perceive, both in application technique and results?
                  Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                  --Al Kimel

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                  • #10
                    Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

                    Good job. Very controlled test.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

                      Excellent test and review, looks like you had a good rolling test panel too!

                      This is a good example of how best to test products for comparison and that's by working on the same panel on a horizontal surface you can look down on.

                      Mike Phillips
                      760-515-0444
                      showcargarage@gmail.com

                      "Find something you like and use it often"

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                      • #12
                        Re: Swirl removal by hand (2009 products)

                        Originally posted by akimel View Post
                        Starvekos, how do you compare M205 with M80? What differences do you perceive, both in application technique and results?
                        Akimel, I presume the application is dual action polisher or rotary.

                        Packaging
                        They have the same level of cut per packaging, although the M205 scale has been updated to cater for M105 (it goes up to 12 while M80 Speed Glaze is rated 4 out of 10).

                        Texture
                        M205 has a fine texture while M80, at least my bottle bought from Meguiars South Africa, contains small lumps which I presume are abrasives.

                        Correction ability
                        I think they have the same level of correction, the only difference is the time required to achieve the desired results. M205 behaves like M105 Ultra Cut Compound, a quick spread and then bump up to the desired speed. M205 works very quickly thus reducing work time.

                        Aesthetics
                        Again, I think M205 has an edge over M80, which is impressive considering that M80 is rich in polishing oils. While I spent a lot of time reviewing each test spot to determine the best level of correction from each product, it was easy to pick up which panel had the best gloss (M205). I tried M205 on one of the pillars on my car (Tornado red VW Golf or Rabbit in the US) and I was really impressed. I normaly apply M81 Hand Polish or M07 Show Car Glaze or Deep Crystal stage 2: polish after applying M80 Speed Glaze. However, there is no need to top M205 other than a layer of protection.

                        In summary, if you are thinking of a finishing polish or a product to refine paint after compounding, I would highly recommend M205.

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